What do ya say, about Jay....today???
bitches...
for all those of you that gave me crap for loving cutler...THAT my friends...is for you.
Look...it was a small glimmer of light...and potentially shortlived...but it was sure as hell pretty...
i feel refreshed...
i feel like this whole season i have been struggling to free myself from the swampy depths...struggling to hold my breath....and finally last night, i saw the surface, breached it...and took one huge long breath of fresh air...
oh the delight i felt over just the basic excitement the Bears were again providing me...
but even more delighting was the rightiousness i came to posess...regarding cutler...
Did it, or did it not appear, that in order for cutler to be successful with this team....ALL that he required was...THE REST OF HIS GODDAMN TEAM TO SHOW UP...
I mean honestly...
Cutler did not even do ONE thing different during this game vs. the rest of the season...(as far as technical qb skill stuff)
He still made bonehead decisions at certain times...he still risked throwing the ball into tight places, as the gunslinger he is...he still threw off his back foot....and he still had nine chins....
YET....when the rest of his team comes in and actually contributes....he doesnt look all that bad anymore does he?
WHY? because receivers actually backed him up...they put forth some effort and RECEIVED his throws...not only that...but THEN...they moved with it....they didnt just fall down...they helped him out...and gave him a couple EXTRA yards...Olsen didnt just fall down...he threw defenders away and kept chuggin...
My point is really for all you damn cutler doubters....what you really doubted was whether or not cutler was the right guy for our team...IF OUR TEAM ONLY HAD A ONE MAN ROSTER.... the answer was no. When he has a team that shows up around him....HES THE RIGHT GUY...AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. His skillset speaks for itself...put a team around him...and he will be (as i said at the beginning), the makings for the best offense the bears fans have ever seen. I still wholeheartedly believe that, and will argue that last nights game offers proof of that, despite the poor performances of the rest of the season. YES....DESPITE the pure SHIT that we have all endured....I am more convinced than ever. He didnt make it easy for me to maintain faith...believe me...i understand the fleeting doubt that we all had to experience....but i also knew that he had what it takes...and that for all intensive purposes, he SHOULD have been kicking ass...and for whatever reason, he just wasnt...I still am not sure what in gods name changed...but it was a different team out there...there WAS a team....thats the only thing that i can think of...
The O line! BEAUTIFUL! you give a man with that type of skill set and that kind of arm...that much time...and you will never lose another game...
I am ecstatic with Williams and the work he did on Jared....and the rest of the O-line looked good as well...capable...and thats all i ever asked for....they dont need to be AWESOME...they just need to actually perform their jobs....do their duties while they are in there....they did that last night....and the dividends speak for themselves.
The running game...nothing special....but again...the guys did their jobs...all that they needed to do, they did...would i like more? sure...but all i was ASKING for...at the very least...was that they do SOMETHING...obviously...they did that...and the results? again...speak for themselves. It freed up the passing game. thats all it needed to accomplish. If you can run well enough to threaten...then we can run all sorts of play action (CUTLERS SPECIALTY)...you all saw what that does for us. Great things.
Not only that....but the defense made it all worthwhile...(there were concerning second half stats...but still, read on)
The defense controlled the morale of this game....and thank god...they did a great job. I credit the defense COMPLETELY for getting us out of the morale rutt that usually lasts for the rest of the game until we lose. When we lost momentum...they came back out...and fucking ripped right back from the vikings and placed the game gently back in Cutlers hands...
They might normally have just hung their heads and accepted defeat....but for whatever reason....they turned that leaf last night....and i was SO fucking happy...
I hated that feeling when you could tell that they were accepting their fate....and i saw that happening last night at one point...and it was right then that i knew we were going to lose...
but then the defense stepped on the field....and SURPRISED THE SHIT OUT OF ME....for the 10th time that game. Where have you been Tommie....way to go alex...
and i really want to give credit to a guy that has been smeared by the media....Steltz...
everytime this guy has stepped in to cover for one of our starters...all the radio talks about is how bad he is...literally making fun of the guy....making a joke out of it.
he was no joke last night. I realize hes not awesome by any means....but man...did he come in and do his job....no one can argue with that....i was impressed. Hes probably not a permanent answer, but i'll be honest...i dont mind him on my roster AT ALL.
One thing about cutler that I DID notice change in this game was his outward leadership displays...
Correct me if im wrong, but has anyone else noticed in any OTHER game this season, Cutler high fiving guys as they come off the field....greeting them back to the sidelines? I had never noticed that before (granted, i wasnt looking), but i think that even that minor attitude change, had a more significant impact than people may realize.
which leads me to coaching...WHAT THE FUCK! God damnit...
This win...this glimmer of what the Bears SHOULD have been...actually gets me MORE pissed at the staff...than i already was...
It shows me that they simply were not doing their job until the second to last game in the season.
I really respect the play calling of Turner in the game, and the ability of Lovie to seemingly change the attitudes of the guys, and make that defense shine for us once this season...but its still too little too late for me.
they are consistently too inconsistent...
and that cant stand...
We have the player talent to beat a great Vikings team....
that talent pool didnt just SHOW up yesterday...
its always been there...sitting there....unused....ineffectively applied...
i still want a new person(s) in there to give me that consistency that we so direly need. Someone needs to be able to use the talent we have on this team in ways that are adjusted specifically to highlight the talent that is there....and there is enough, i would argue to win more games than we have....even over the past 3 years...and lovies entire reign as head coach.
And this talk of the team having the talent...does not redeem angelo in my eyes either...sure...we have the talent...but we dont have NEAR the talent that we SHOULD have...and hardly any, compared to other teams we are expected to compete against...
very luckily....this is football...and EVERY team has a chance...and the Bear optimist in me is happy to report that we have that 'Bear luck' in more situations than we realize. If that 'luck' was combined with some playmakers like other teams have distributed throughout their roster...we would be hard to beat. and be a hell of a lot more consistent.
Angelo is just as much at fault as lovie is, for the inability of this team to find any consistency...
consistency will only be found under new leadership. COMPLETELY new leadership...
I'm not completely opposed to the idea of Lovie sticking around for the defense only...but even that would be a funds concession....and i really think we would be better off with entirely new brains behind this operation.
but...lets give him credit...if indeed it is LOVIE responsible for the attitude change, and intensity change i noted last night.....and not Kreutz...whom I secretly predict is truly the origin of such....then consider my credit given...
and a fond farewell, as well...
too little, too late...he should be fired for inconsistency alone...
I cannot endure another season of his self administered football roller coaster...
hes wasting good players seasons...and has all but boarded up our window for success within the next 3 years.
See ya...
DLP
Tuesday, December 29, 2009
Friday, December 4, 2009
2009 Regular Season Week 10 - Bears @ SF
Son of bitch....
It hurts to be a bears fan right now...
But its even more painful to be a huge Cutler fan....as most of you should know I am.
As I've said in the past....with the bears.....when you fix one problem (defense), the ONE thing that previously was NEVER really a problem....suddenly becomes your biggest.
Man...I just dont know how that happens....ALWAYS.
In Lovie's defense...I simply dont know how you deal with this. You put in effort to fix one thing (and are fairly successful in doing so), with the assumption that everything else would stay consistent. If Lovie's assumption was correct, we SHOULD have been decent enough to pull out a win; instead all falls apart in a worst case scenario nightmare come to life....
What do you do?
The bottom line for me though, is that Cutler simply isnt as bad as that performance (or really any of his performances this season) may suggest that he is. You cant be fickle with Cutler....you cant call for his head after a game like that.
We got what we paid for. Cutler is going to take risks to try to win a game. Its either going to make him a champion in our eyes, or make him the asshole; and which of those he is...comes down to mere seconds in his decision making. OBVIOUSLY...in this particular game, he took WAY too many risks that did not benefit our team. Theres no excuse for that. But I will take my odds with Cutler any day of the week. I think it will be rarely that he performs to that degree of shittiness throughout the remaining years of his career.
I heard a stat that both Peyton Manning and Drew Brees both had a way worse first three years than Cutler's so far. I know its ridiculous to make that comparison at this particular moment in time...but not everyone is a Matt Ryan or a Joe Flacco -- where they can put out great performances in their first year...or first couple years. Those two are the exception.
I think its normal for a young QB like Cutler to have some bad games....especially given that hes with a new team, with a lot of pressure (as all Chicago QBs experience), with very little talent around him. Should he be dealing with these inconsistencies this far into the season? Week 10? No...absolutely not. I'm not excusing him....I'm just not blaming the rotting elephant shit of a season on Cutler. Hes the only reason we had a CHANCE at a season this year in the first place. We cant blame him now, even if he did pretty much just close the door on this season. The door was swinging closed anyway...it was Cutlers foot that was in the way....he just chose this game to remove his foot...and let the door slam shut....thats all.
And to be perfectly honest...I'd much rather the Bears have THIS problem....than the problem that was most concerning to me after the Arizona game....which was complete ineptitude of our defense. Mostly, because I dont believe THIS problem is an enduring one, whereas the defense and some of the others we are experiencing have much more potential to be so.
I saw a drastic improvement in the defense. Dont get me wrong...im not saying they are a top tier defense....but they proved my point from previous discussions....that their inconsistencies are not a talent issue....its a preparation and coaching issue. I believe that after the horrifying loss to the Cardinals - Lovie got on those guys -- specifically the defense.....and they came out ready to play this time. They were not awesome....but they were way more sound than I thought they could be, given their previous performances. QB and offensive problems are WAY easier to fix than the problems of an entire defense.
Now im not saying that our defensive woes are solved....they just went from hopeless....to ALMOST not hopeless. And for me? Considering how i WAS feeling about them? Thats a change that I'm pretty happy with.
But lets be honest...any hopefulness that you COULD take away from that game....is all for naught anyway... the seasons over....too little, too late.
But as far as next year goes....seeing that some of these guys that had to step in on the defense, can at least hold a mediocre offensive team to 10, is a good sign. It shouldnt, by any means, signal the start of a parade for the defense....its just a good sign...thats it. Next year - Some of our injured guys come back...some of these guys are a tough year better...a tough year more improved....and can help us that much more. And it gives me more hope that with our limited draft picks, we can MAYBE fill enough of the holes we have on this team...because if these guys can stand tall in their roles as they did last night....maybe we have a chance to keep our focus on the positions that really need help in the off season....even more than these other concerning positions. Thats my hope....i have to hold onto something.
The change I saw was a change in defensive mindset....
In previous games, when the defense would get pounded and make a terrible play...they wouldnt recover...they would take on the attitude of, "ohh...here we go again" and allow for some sort of self loathing, self fulfilling prophecy to take place. I saw them recover much better during this game...I saw them get run over by Gore one play...and instead of letting him use that momentum and continue to run all over us....I saw them arch their back...and show a little pride....and stand up for themselves....and believe that they could do something about it.
Thats all I ask....go out there like you CAN win....not like lemmings ready to willingly walk off a cliff. I think the players banded together to make this happen....and I think whatever leadership did this time to get these guys ready, was good....and I hope its not forgotten for next week... returning the unit to business as usual. For Lovie...HE CANNOT let this happen. If he does...it truly is over for him....if he can even withstand what this year's lack of success will surely bring to him anyway. But for the record...he showed ME enough...at least to not want him gone right NOW like I did after Arizona. I dont know if hes the right guy to rebuild our team....but the slight change I observed, despite the poor outcome, was enough to stop me from finding out where he lives and doing unthinkable things with a chainsaw....and thats a start.
In any event....I called for an immediate and drastic change from leadership. It seems counterintuitive to say, considering the outcome of the game, but I am actually encouraged by what I saw....because the things that I was concerned about...DID show improvement...I just wasnt anticipating the monster diareah fart that was Cutler's performance. If Cutlers performance was ever so slightly less horrible, we win that game....and thats what I assumed would happen if Lovie got his defense to show up...which he did, at least to the degree that I expected he should be able to, if he had ANY ability to do his job.
The inconsistency weve endured on both sides of the ball, still bolsters my argument that there are coaching issues....but I saw a bit more preparation out of the team as a whole from a coaching perspective....they seemed more ready to play...(with the exception of Cutler and maybe our receivers...and the penalties). Thats a step in the right direction....and thats really what i was asking for....I just wanted to stop taking steps BACKWARD....and I think (as far as the defense goes anyway) the leadership did that....and that was a very very small step in the correct direction. Would I like more? of course.... But can you blame me for being even slightly happy that leadership at least seemed to get the picture? that they appeared to wake up a little? It wasnt enough....but its something....where I previously thought there would be a big NOTHING...
So go ahead...give me grief for being all up on Cutler's balls all this time, saying he would be the best weve ever seen and all that. He wasnt good. I'll take it on the chin...just like he will have to. But I still stand behind my support of Cutler. He WILL be the best QB weve ever seen in Chicago....I apparently just cant put a time constraint on when that will be realized. It appears that it will be a sec...
He needs to work on his footwork....he needs to see the field better....and he needs to probably take a cue from Orton and learn how to take care of the ball and not allow himself to be the one that beats us. I predict, Cutler bounces back and we hardly ever see him in this form ever again...
So, if you must..... take solace in my despair...and my disappointment...and my temporary disillusionment in Cutler.... I dont think it will happen very often....and sooner or later...i will eventually be proven righteous in my undying support and faith in his arm, and leadership of this team.
I only hope we can keep him alive long enough so he can prove it to you all....and so that maybe we can get some people around him to help him out.
With a low hanging head,
DLP
It hurts to be a bears fan right now...
But its even more painful to be a huge Cutler fan....as most of you should know I am.
As I've said in the past....with the bears.....when you fix one problem (defense), the ONE thing that previously was NEVER really a problem....suddenly becomes your biggest.
Man...I just dont know how that happens....ALWAYS.
In Lovie's defense...I simply dont know how you deal with this. You put in effort to fix one thing (and are fairly successful in doing so), with the assumption that everything else would stay consistent. If Lovie's assumption was correct, we SHOULD have been decent enough to pull out a win; instead all falls apart in a worst case scenario nightmare come to life....
What do you do?
The bottom line for me though, is that Cutler simply isnt as bad as that performance (or really any of his performances this season) may suggest that he is. You cant be fickle with Cutler....you cant call for his head after a game like that.
We got what we paid for. Cutler is going to take risks to try to win a game. Its either going to make him a champion in our eyes, or make him the asshole; and which of those he is...comes down to mere seconds in his decision making. OBVIOUSLY...in this particular game, he took WAY too many risks that did not benefit our team. Theres no excuse for that. But I will take my odds with Cutler any day of the week. I think it will be rarely that he performs to that degree of shittiness throughout the remaining years of his career.
I heard a stat that both Peyton Manning and Drew Brees both had a way worse first three years than Cutler's so far. I know its ridiculous to make that comparison at this particular moment in time...but not everyone is a Matt Ryan or a Joe Flacco -- where they can put out great performances in their first year...or first couple years. Those two are the exception.
I think its normal for a young QB like Cutler to have some bad games....especially given that hes with a new team, with a lot of pressure (as all Chicago QBs experience), with very little talent around him. Should he be dealing with these inconsistencies this far into the season? Week 10? No...absolutely not. I'm not excusing him....I'm just not blaming the rotting elephant shit of a season on Cutler. Hes the only reason we had a CHANCE at a season this year in the first place. We cant blame him now, even if he did pretty much just close the door on this season. The door was swinging closed anyway...it was Cutlers foot that was in the way....he just chose this game to remove his foot...and let the door slam shut....thats all.
And to be perfectly honest...I'd much rather the Bears have THIS problem....than the problem that was most concerning to me after the Arizona game....which was complete ineptitude of our defense. Mostly, because I dont believe THIS problem is an enduring one, whereas the defense and some of the others we are experiencing have much more potential to be so.
I saw a drastic improvement in the defense. Dont get me wrong...im not saying they are a top tier defense....but they proved my point from previous discussions....that their inconsistencies are not a talent issue....its a preparation and coaching issue. I believe that after the horrifying loss to the Cardinals - Lovie got on those guys -- specifically the defense.....and they came out ready to play this time. They were not awesome....but they were way more sound than I thought they could be, given their previous performances. QB and offensive problems are WAY easier to fix than the problems of an entire defense.
Now im not saying that our defensive woes are solved....they just went from hopeless....to ALMOST not hopeless. And for me? Considering how i WAS feeling about them? Thats a change that I'm pretty happy with.
But lets be honest...any hopefulness that you COULD take away from that game....is all for naught anyway... the seasons over....too little, too late.
But as far as next year goes....seeing that some of these guys that had to step in on the defense, can at least hold a mediocre offensive team to 10, is a good sign. It shouldnt, by any means, signal the start of a parade for the defense....its just a good sign...thats it. Next year - Some of our injured guys come back...some of these guys are a tough year better...a tough year more improved....and can help us that much more. And it gives me more hope that with our limited draft picks, we can MAYBE fill enough of the holes we have on this team...because if these guys can stand tall in their roles as they did last night....maybe we have a chance to keep our focus on the positions that really need help in the off season....even more than these other concerning positions. Thats my hope....i have to hold onto something.
The change I saw was a change in defensive mindset....
In previous games, when the defense would get pounded and make a terrible play...they wouldnt recover...they would take on the attitude of, "ohh...here we go again" and allow for some sort of self loathing, self fulfilling prophecy to take place. I saw them recover much better during this game...I saw them get run over by Gore one play...and instead of letting him use that momentum and continue to run all over us....I saw them arch their back...and show a little pride....and stand up for themselves....and believe that they could do something about it.
Thats all I ask....go out there like you CAN win....not like lemmings ready to willingly walk off a cliff. I think the players banded together to make this happen....and I think whatever leadership did this time to get these guys ready, was good....and I hope its not forgotten for next week... returning the unit to business as usual. For Lovie...HE CANNOT let this happen. If he does...it truly is over for him....if he can even withstand what this year's lack of success will surely bring to him anyway. But for the record...he showed ME enough...at least to not want him gone right NOW like I did after Arizona. I dont know if hes the right guy to rebuild our team....but the slight change I observed, despite the poor outcome, was enough to stop me from finding out where he lives and doing unthinkable things with a chainsaw....and thats a start.
In any event....I called for an immediate and drastic change from leadership. It seems counterintuitive to say, considering the outcome of the game, but I am actually encouraged by what I saw....because the things that I was concerned about...DID show improvement...I just wasnt anticipating the monster diareah fart that was Cutler's performance. If Cutlers performance was ever so slightly less horrible, we win that game....and thats what I assumed would happen if Lovie got his defense to show up...which he did, at least to the degree that I expected he should be able to, if he had ANY ability to do his job.
The inconsistency weve endured on both sides of the ball, still bolsters my argument that there are coaching issues....but I saw a bit more preparation out of the team as a whole from a coaching perspective....they seemed more ready to play...(with the exception of Cutler and maybe our receivers...and the penalties). Thats a step in the right direction....and thats really what i was asking for....I just wanted to stop taking steps BACKWARD....and I think (as far as the defense goes anyway) the leadership did that....and that was a very very small step in the correct direction. Would I like more? of course.... But can you blame me for being even slightly happy that leadership at least seemed to get the picture? that they appeared to wake up a little? It wasnt enough....but its something....where I previously thought there would be a big NOTHING...
So go ahead...give me grief for being all up on Cutler's balls all this time, saying he would be the best weve ever seen and all that. He wasnt good. I'll take it on the chin...just like he will have to. But I still stand behind my support of Cutler. He WILL be the best QB weve ever seen in Chicago....I apparently just cant put a time constraint on when that will be realized. It appears that it will be a sec...
He needs to work on his footwork....he needs to see the field better....and he needs to probably take a cue from Orton and learn how to take care of the ball and not allow himself to be the one that beats us. I predict, Cutler bounces back and we hardly ever see him in this form ever again...
So, if you must..... take solace in my despair...and my disappointment...and my temporary disillusionment in Cutler.... I dont think it will happen very often....and sooner or later...i will eventually be proven righteous in my undying support and faith in his arm, and leadership of this team.
I only hope we can keep him alive long enough so he can prove it to you all....and so that maybe we can get some people around him to help him out.
With a low hanging head,
DLP
2009 Regular Season Week 9 - Bears vs. Cardinals
Bears WHAT!??
Bears suck...
thats what....
Fuck me.
What....in the hell......was that?
Gracious me....what do you say about YOUR defense now....LOVIE??!!
!!!?!???!???
I dont want to hear shit about the offense....
YES...the O-line is still pitiful...
Yes...they had something to do with this loss...
Yes, Cutler was still running for his life....
Yes, I still despise this fact.....but OBVIOUSLY...this time, they were not the worst unit out there.
...they were dissappointing...as every aspect of the Bear's game was...but I think we would be remiss if we didnt primarily blame the glaringly bad defense for this loss.
If I could only choose one thing that had me looking around for a rope all game...
it would be 3rd downs....
Why did every third down look like our defense was interrupting their nap time? What do you even say about this?
Thats my biggest problem right now....there are SO MANY problems...
It was daunting for me to even THINK about writing this week....and I'm still so hurt and ashamed by what I bore witness to, that I STILL dont think I am thinking coherently about this...
So...if you all saw what I saw....then I'll save my breath...
We all know we are fucked....we all saw that it was pathetic....no reason to get everyone riled up...
Instead...let me mention some good things...
Olsen...
Oh wait...thats ONE thing...
Even so...I am grateful someone on our coaching staff figured out how to use a damn TE. Took them long enough. But as usual folks....don't be surprised if this positive news from the TE position is a week long phenomenon. Our coaches and our players have an intolerably short memory. Anything done differently that resulted in this newfound success for Olsen, is likely only temporary.
The story goes....you fix one thing with the Bears, and everything else falls apart. You start to focus on those other things...and the ONE thing that you thought you had solved...returns to its previously unbearibly shitty state...leaving us back at square one.
And as for THIS game...I like the fact that someone stepped up...I just wish, FOR ONCE, that when that happened, everyone else didn't fall on their face...
I'm afraid there is no way to get to 10 wins now...no wild card....no season....
As only a desperate Bears fan can...I will hold onto playoff hopes....but don't be fooled...my hopes are comparable to those I might have for finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
Its a sad state of affairs....and I cant believe that the best case scenario...THE BEST CASE (unlikely as hell as it is)....is that I have to wait an entire year for a REAL season of Bears football...
...and to think that we will be in BETTER shape next year....is an uncanny thought indeed. Possible....but doubtful...
Even if there IS improvement by next year....to what degree? Its easy to improve on pure shit. DRIED shit is an improvement on wet smelly shit.....but its still shit...its just older and mustier...not as obvious that what youre looking at came directly from a rotten asshole.
I'm sorry...but I am NOT going to stand around all off season being fed little tidbits of information about how this guy from the defense is really improving...or the o-line is getting the time they needed to gel....or the receivers are really developing and stepping up....or whatever new piece of news they want us to chew on so that we can convince ourselves that we have some sort of shot.
I've been kidding myself for three straight years because of what these idiots decide to tell us.
I will not be happy with a confidence win over piss poor Cleveland...I will not be happy with a "I dont know what happened this week, but we'll be prepared next week" from Lovie.....I will not be happy with a "ohhh, that was a troubled season....a rebuilding season....this NEXT one will be better"....
enough already...
I need major changes....
If we are going to rebuild around Cutler....and we have a couple of shitty years ahead while we do that....then fine....do it...
But say so...don't fucking pull this stupid shit like we are SUPPOSED to win in the meantime...and you just can't seem to figure out why we arent being successful....like you dont know what is happening....
I call BS....
If you, as a coach...cant see that your team sucks....you should NOT be our coach.
Just admit that its a rebuilding period if thats what it is....
Earth to Lovie!
You have old guys that dont feel it necessary to earn their paychecks sitting on your roster....and thats YOUR fault....
Some of your players are acting like, because they used to be top tier out there, and you have developed a strong relationship with these players, that they can take advantage of this. They likely feel that now that they have earned their roster spot, along with your respect, that they can never be displaced and that they can just go grab ass all day and do shit. Why WOULDNT they just sit around and collect their money? I would.
Way to create an incentivised environment for your players...Lovie. You have a bunch of bitches on your defense...complete wastes of space.....not unlike you...because you dont have the management ability to fucking cut your losses and let go of someone whos personality you may like...but that no longer offers ANY football value to you or your team.
Make Tommie practice if he's starting for your team and getting paid the most money of anyone on your D-line! If you still see some smidgeon of talent in weak sauce Vasher...show us where it is!
Wake UP!! YOU STUBBORN SON OF A BITCH! DO YOU WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS TEAM OR WHAT? Right now this team is being controlled by its own unstoppable demise.
And look...I'm not blaming Lovie for all of this. I actually think he is a good coach (albeit overrated) and that it would be a mistake to get rid of him (partially because there is so much money wrapped up in him...and partially because I think SOME things that he brings to the table are valuable)....but he needs to change in a drastic way for me to retain that belief...and he needs to do it soon....theres plenty to work on.
Heres the start of a long list...
Lovie's improvement list:
-player incentivising
-in-game coaching strategy
-opponent based preparation
-football innovation
-cutting losses (trimming the fat)
-contract negotiations (have a realistic idea of how long a player will add value, so you dont end up with dead weight)
-identifying the true problem...fixing it...and MAINTAINING the fix.
And thats not to mention my drafting concerns with Angelo. Thats a whole other story.
Anywho...what I heard on the radio this morning was an argument against the players...
...Im slightly appalled at this...
Listen....we can talk about a problem with the players all day....yes...this problem exists...
But I'm kind of shocked that the 'PLAYERS' are the talk of the radio and media this morning....
How many consecutive years in a row, under the same leadership (the only constant variable), can we blame the players....??
The players change every god damn year....especially in Chicago....KEY POSITIONS are changing....
when does it become obvious that there is something much worse at work here....or not working, should I say.
I'm not saying the coaches have to go....but someone needs a light bulb moment....and to realize that this is NOT the players.....it all starts with the coaching.
Coaches make the decisions that bring certain players in...get players ready to play...get a gameplan in place for a certain opponent...decide which players they are going to expect production from in a game....
...EVERYTHING that happens within an organization is a result of one, two, or three people at the top....
A coaches job is to take players and make them successful under a single team identity.....and that identity is chosen by the coaching staff...and is subsequently the responsibility of that leadership team....so if the players are failing within that identity...its a failure of leadership...its a failure I chalk up to the coaches....
But thats just my opinion....
A player can drop a ball.....a coach can draft a player that consistently drops balls....
Who can I possibly hold more responsible than a coach?
But look, I'm not calling for his resignation...or anything that serious....but I am calling for something different from him...and quick.
My biggest knock on Lovie as a coach is, and always has been, his IN-GAME coaching abilities. And when I talk about Lovie, I mean his whole staff...his whole identity...I'm not purposefully singling him out.
I guess when I see his apparent lack of understanding DURING a game....it makes me question how much he understands about what how hes doing his job OFF the field....when he's NOT on national television. If hes this bad right in front of me, how bad is he when strategizing a gameplan in his office, or when explaining to his defense how to execute, ect.?
I dont KNOW that he is bad in these aspects...but its a concern....a fair one, I would venture...
And when your beloved team comes out and plays like that? It makes that question even more important. And thats what my point is. Someone needs to check into it is all...
...make sure he is earning his money, and doing a good job....and perhaps more, has the knowledge and understanding REQUIRED to do a good job.
I dont think that that is going too far....or being too impulsive. I think it is fiscally responsible for our organization to re-evaluate and re-examine what is going on with our leadership right now.
thats all...
DLP
Bears suck...
thats what....
Fuck me.
What....in the hell......was that?
Gracious me....what do you say about YOUR defense now....LOVIE??!!
!!!?!???!???
I dont want to hear shit about the offense....
YES...the O-line is still pitiful...
Yes...they had something to do with this loss...
Yes, Cutler was still running for his life....
Yes, I still despise this fact.....but OBVIOUSLY...this time, they were not the worst unit out there.
...they were dissappointing...as every aspect of the Bear's game was...but I think we would be remiss if we didnt primarily blame the glaringly bad defense for this loss.
If I could only choose one thing that had me looking around for a rope all game...
it would be 3rd downs....
Why did every third down look like our defense was interrupting their nap time? What do you even say about this?
Thats my biggest problem right now....there are SO MANY problems...
It was daunting for me to even THINK about writing this week....and I'm still so hurt and ashamed by what I bore witness to, that I STILL dont think I am thinking coherently about this...
So...if you all saw what I saw....then I'll save my breath...
We all know we are fucked....we all saw that it was pathetic....no reason to get everyone riled up...
Instead...let me mention some good things...
Olsen...
Oh wait...thats ONE thing...
Even so...I am grateful someone on our coaching staff figured out how to use a damn TE. Took them long enough. But as usual folks....don't be surprised if this positive news from the TE position is a week long phenomenon. Our coaches and our players have an intolerably short memory. Anything done differently that resulted in this newfound success for Olsen, is likely only temporary.
The story goes....you fix one thing with the Bears, and everything else falls apart. You start to focus on those other things...and the ONE thing that you thought you had solved...returns to its previously unbearibly shitty state...leaving us back at square one.
And as for THIS game...I like the fact that someone stepped up...I just wish, FOR ONCE, that when that happened, everyone else didn't fall on their face...
I'm afraid there is no way to get to 10 wins now...no wild card....no season....
As only a desperate Bears fan can...I will hold onto playoff hopes....but don't be fooled...my hopes are comparable to those I might have for finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
Its a sad state of affairs....and I cant believe that the best case scenario...THE BEST CASE (unlikely as hell as it is)....is that I have to wait an entire year for a REAL season of Bears football...
...and to think that we will be in BETTER shape next year....is an uncanny thought indeed. Possible....but doubtful...
Even if there IS improvement by next year....to what degree? Its easy to improve on pure shit. DRIED shit is an improvement on wet smelly shit.....but its still shit...its just older and mustier...not as obvious that what youre looking at came directly from a rotten asshole.
I'm sorry...but I am NOT going to stand around all off season being fed little tidbits of information about how this guy from the defense is really improving...or the o-line is getting the time they needed to gel....or the receivers are really developing and stepping up....or whatever new piece of news they want us to chew on so that we can convince ourselves that we have some sort of shot.
I've been kidding myself for three straight years because of what these idiots decide to tell us.
I will not be happy with a confidence win over piss poor Cleveland...I will not be happy with a "I dont know what happened this week, but we'll be prepared next week" from Lovie.....I will not be happy with a "ohhh, that was a troubled season....a rebuilding season....this NEXT one will be better"....
enough already...
I need major changes....
If we are going to rebuild around Cutler....and we have a couple of shitty years ahead while we do that....then fine....do it...
But say so...don't fucking pull this stupid shit like we are SUPPOSED to win in the meantime...and you just can't seem to figure out why we arent being successful....like you dont know what is happening....
I call BS....
If you, as a coach...cant see that your team sucks....you should NOT be our coach.
Just admit that its a rebuilding period if thats what it is....
Earth to Lovie!
You have old guys that dont feel it necessary to earn their paychecks sitting on your roster....and thats YOUR fault....
Some of your players are acting like, because they used to be top tier out there, and you have developed a strong relationship with these players, that they can take advantage of this. They likely feel that now that they have earned their roster spot, along with your respect, that they can never be displaced and that they can just go grab ass all day and do shit. Why WOULDNT they just sit around and collect their money? I would.
Way to create an incentivised environment for your players...Lovie. You have a bunch of bitches on your defense...complete wastes of space.....not unlike you...because you dont have the management ability to fucking cut your losses and let go of someone whos personality you may like...but that no longer offers ANY football value to you or your team.
Make Tommie practice if he's starting for your team and getting paid the most money of anyone on your D-line! If you still see some smidgeon of talent in weak sauce Vasher...show us where it is!
Wake UP!! YOU STUBBORN SON OF A BITCH! DO YOU WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS TEAM OR WHAT? Right now this team is being controlled by its own unstoppable demise.
And look...I'm not blaming Lovie for all of this. I actually think he is a good coach (albeit overrated) and that it would be a mistake to get rid of him (partially because there is so much money wrapped up in him...and partially because I think SOME things that he brings to the table are valuable)....but he needs to change in a drastic way for me to retain that belief...and he needs to do it soon....theres plenty to work on.
Heres the start of a long list...
Lovie's improvement list:
-player incentivising
-in-game coaching strategy
-opponent based preparation
-football innovation
-cutting losses (trimming the fat)
-contract negotiations (have a realistic idea of how long a player will add value, so you dont end up with dead weight)
-identifying the true problem...fixing it...and MAINTAINING the fix.
And thats not to mention my drafting concerns with Angelo. Thats a whole other story.
Anywho...what I heard on the radio this morning was an argument against the players...
...Im slightly appalled at this...
Listen....we can talk about a problem with the players all day....yes...this problem exists...
But I'm kind of shocked that the 'PLAYERS' are the talk of the radio and media this morning....
How many consecutive years in a row, under the same leadership (the only constant variable), can we blame the players....??
The players change every god damn year....especially in Chicago....KEY POSITIONS are changing....
when does it become obvious that there is something much worse at work here....or not working, should I say.
I'm not saying the coaches have to go....but someone needs a light bulb moment....and to realize that this is NOT the players.....it all starts with the coaching.
Coaches make the decisions that bring certain players in...get players ready to play...get a gameplan in place for a certain opponent...decide which players they are going to expect production from in a game....
...EVERYTHING that happens within an organization is a result of one, two, or three people at the top....
A coaches job is to take players and make them successful under a single team identity.....and that identity is chosen by the coaching staff...and is subsequently the responsibility of that leadership team....so if the players are failing within that identity...its a failure of leadership...its a failure I chalk up to the coaches....
But thats just my opinion....
A player can drop a ball.....a coach can draft a player that consistently drops balls....
Who can I possibly hold more responsible than a coach?
But look, I'm not calling for his resignation...or anything that serious....but I am calling for something different from him...and quick.
My biggest knock on Lovie as a coach is, and always has been, his IN-GAME coaching abilities. And when I talk about Lovie, I mean his whole staff...his whole identity...I'm not purposefully singling him out.
I guess when I see his apparent lack of understanding DURING a game....it makes me question how much he understands about what how hes doing his job OFF the field....when he's NOT on national television. If hes this bad right in front of me, how bad is he when strategizing a gameplan in his office, or when explaining to his defense how to execute, ect.?
I dont KNOW that he is bad in these aspects...but its a concern....a fair one, I would venture...
And when your beloved team comes out and plays like that? It makes that question even more important. And thats what my point is. Someone needs to check into it is all...
...make sure he is earning his money, and doing a good job....and perhaps more, has the knowledge and understanding REQUIRED to do a good job.
I dont think that that is going too far....or being too impulsive. I think it is fiscally responsible for our organization to re-evaluate and re-examine what is going on with our leadership right now.
thats all...
DLP
2009 Regular Season Week 7 - Bears @ Bengals
"Bears fail...and I'm angry...and I'm back...and I'm lengthier than ever"
and so begins my vent sesh...
I'ts been a while kids...but I feel the need as a fan to finally speak out once more....
So I'm coming out of retirement to comment on our latest attempt at resembling shit swirling down a toilet...
Well fellas...
If that wasnt a wake up call....I don't know what is.
6-10 anyone??? IF we are lucky?
lets see...
We have the browns next week...which if we dont win...will make me a full on Saints fan...for good...
Then we lose 4 games until we hit the Rams...
By that time...with our luck...the rams will have probably hit their stride and we will lose to THEM too...
But lets just say we beat them...
Anyone arguing we lose the next three after that? yeah...didnt think so.
Then the lions...and we could potentially lose that too with how things are looking...
BEST case scenario - 6 and 10.
Likely scenario -- 4 and 12.....
After last nights game....consider me graciously bowing out of the Bear optimist category...
At the beginning of the season, everyone believed that with Cutler coming in, supposed improvements in the O-line, Marinelli working with the D-line, receivers stepping up, Forte coming off of a monster year....
....It was hard NOT to have every belief that this team had what it needed to perform this season.
After the first game in GB...we considered it a fluke...figured it would take a little time for them get in synch right?
yeaaaahhh...no...
The next couple of games...we SURVIVED...
Everyone was looking for the lines on both sides of the ball to prove that they were improved...but they didnt... the only reason we survived those games is via other players stepping up...(ie the usual Briggs, Cutler, Knox, SP Teams)...which simply temporarily masked our true problems....or distracted us from them, really....
...you cant argue with a win....but we should have been....(arguing that is).....because even in our wins...it should have remained clear that our problems were not truly resolved.
So the problem is...and always was...the O-line and the D-line.
And perhaps the bigger problem is that we have a staff that sincerely believed that it had righted a tilting ship...or at least suggested that they had righted the ship...over and over again. Well....the ship is fucking upside down, if not already at the bottom of the sea.
So pick one...are you dumb? or are you lying?
You are dumb if you believed you fixed it...and youre lying if you knew you hadnt. I dont know which answer I want to hear. But honestly...as a fan, I think I need to finally hear SOME real answers. I'm tired of everyone on the staff acting like nothing is wrong from week to week...like we are always just a game away from busting out into playoff worthy play...
This is ridiculous...and its more than just a bad couple of games...
THIS IS CONSECUTIVE SEASONS OF PURE SHIT AND DISAPPOINTMENT...this is not just one game, or one season that I am using as ammunition...
Every year, its something else....
When Rex was blowing it...all we needed was a running game....
When forte was the answer to our running game....it was ortons fault....so we bring in Cutler...
When cutler blows...its cause we dont have receivers...or because our defense had a bad game...or whatever...
does anyone else see this??!? Excuses,.... constantly...im done listening to them...
this is not a PLAYER problem....
yeah...i think we have some lazy, lax attitude players right now....
But everyone is lazy...inherently...its the coaches job to give incentive...to give inspiration...to reward guys with work ethic and to spare me the pain of watching people that dont have it....those players without heart....why are they on my team?
I'd literally rather have a fat ass mentally retarted D lineman that will leave his damn heart on the field...rather than these seemingly 'athletic' peices of shit that dont seem to care.
To me, its an issue with the coaching...
It is a coaches job to get these players ready to play every week....and its simply not being done.
The coaching staff has two foreseeable excuses....or supposed reasons why things arent working out as they expected...neither of which are really that acceptable...and in reality, its probably a horrible combination of both problems.
Either they believe that they are not bringing in the right players, or they are not DOING enough week to week to prepare those players...or to improve them...
They either suck as long term future minded coaches (drafting, trades, ect)...or they suck as short term present minded coaches (in-game adaptations, gameplanning, football innovation, teaching)...
Theres no getting around it guys. Its one or the other...(or in my opinion for this case...BOTH)
I've ALWAYS thought that Chicago had a larger problem with the latter. Terrible in-game coaching....and in the same sense, if you arent that smart during a live game, you cant be that good at foreseeing what that live game will bring you...and thus you will do a poor job in preparing your team for the next opponent week to week.
NOW...im starting to see...that they really arent all that good at bringing in quality talent either...so what ARE they good at??...
The obvious, but painful answer is....nothing. We suck. Someone needs to take Cutler, Briggs, and Knox....and start ALL over. And they need to do it now.
I'm obviously over-reacting and dont truly believe this...maybe in an ideal world...
But realistically we all know it cant be done like that...
So, one can assume....one may ask...alright smarty pants, "How would YOU fix this....realistically?"
Well...I dont get paid millions of dollars to KNOW what to do....but I do have some logic....and I will tell you what that logic might suggest be done....
Draft only offensive lineman...make trades...teach new guys the positions.....do whatever you have to do to get that QB (whom is now our last hope...our only potential savior till 2014) protected...he NEEDS space to do his job...and if you put that much money into a franchise QB...you better put money into all those areas (O-line) that let him earn his money...
...instead, our money is being spent having him fall all over the field, or (potentially) sitting on the bench with an injury received while being chased around like hes the cutest girl in grade school and is running from a bunch of horny 5th grade boys. Real efficient use of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
I dont care about ANYTHING else. The first thing that needs to happen is, we need an O-line in Chicago....a young one...one that can grow with Cutler. No more vets...vets are lazy...and they've already made their money...and have their path cleared to the hall of fame or whatever....get them the FUCK off my team. Bring in a smart offensive line coach...and make it happen...
THIS SHOULD BE A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY -- OVER ALL ELSE...Sparing no expense...with no other considerations...forget about the defense or the receivers....its not going to matter until you take care of this.
The O-line significantly impacts:
-the health of your quarterback
-the success of your quarterback
-the success of your running game
Are these not the three things that we have been struggling with for YEARS???!? How long does it take YOU to figure out where the REAL problem is???!? How long should I be comfortable with it taking the Chicago coaches?? Let me give you a hint. ONE year is too long. One WEEK is too long.... How do you think I feel about SIX years?! I dont...
I dont feel a god damned thing anymore....
With a franchise QB, an O-line, and a D-line.......
thats the start of a team.....
fill in the other positions in any which way you want....the foundation is there....and the rest will fall into place.
This isnt rocket science....
...and I'm not going to do.....what everyone THINKS I'm gonna do.....which is....JUST FREAK OUT...
but yes....yes i am going to do that...
I'm tired of being associated with complete idiots. I deserve better as a fan. I'm ASHAMED that I love the Bears. By doing so, I basically have to admit to the world, everyday of my life, that I am a fan of COMPLETE retards...that I believe in people suited only to fail...that I never learn my lesson...that im illogically and blindly faithful....and that I follow the leadership of a passionless, football retarded, coaching staff.
Listen...I SUPPORT the Special Olympics...
I'm not a FAN of the retard that runs in one of the events....
you see where I'm goin with this???
I'm a fan of this football team because I thought they were a real NFL team...
If all they want is my SUPPORT...cause they are all god damned retards....then fuck...lets all just frolick around the field....no need to be competitive at all...
This is the NFL...this is a business....run it like one...
...or go run a summer camp for retards.
DLP
and so begins my vent sesh...
I'ts been a while kids...but I feel the need as a fan to finally speak out once more....
So I'm coming out of retirement to comment on our latest attempt at resembling shit swirling down a toilet...
Well fellas...
If that wasnt a wake up call....I don't know what is.
6-10 anyone??? IF we are lucky?
lets see...
We have the browns next week...which if we dont win...will make me a full on Saints fan...for good...
Then we lose 4 games until we hit the Rams...
By that time...with our luck...the rams will have probably hit their stride and we will lose to THEM too...
But lets just say we beat them...
Anyone arguing we lose the next three after that? yeah...didnt think so.
Then the lions...and we could potentially lose that too with how things are looking...
BEST case scenario - 6 and 10.
Likely scenario -- 4 and 12.....
After last nights game....consider me graciously bowing out of the Bear optimist category...
At the beginning of the season, everyone believed that with Cutler coming in, supposed improvements in the O-line, Marinelli working with the D-line, receivers stepping up, Forte coming off of a monster year....
....It was hard NOT to have every belief that this team had what it needed to perform this season.
After the first game in GB...we considered it a fluke...figured it would take a little time for them get in synch right?
yeaaaahhh...no...
The next couple of games...we SURVIVED...
Everyone was looking for the lines on both sides of the ball to prove that they were improved...but they didnt... the only reason we survived those games is via other players stepping up...(ie the usual Briggs, Cutler, Knox, SP Teams)...which simply temporarily masked our true problems....or distracted us from them, really....
...you cant argue with a win....but we should have been....(arguing that is).....because even in our wins...it should have remained clear that our problems were not truly resolved.
So the problem is...and always was...the O-line and the D-line.
And perhaps the bigger problem is that we have a staff that sincerely believed that it had righted a tilting ship...or at least suggested that they had righted the ship...over and over again. Well....the ship is fucking upside down, if not already at the bottom of the sea.
So pick one...are you dumb? or are you lying?
You are dumb if you believed you fixed it...and youre lying if you knew you hadnt. I dont know which answer I want to hear. But honestly...as a fan, I think I need to finally hear SOME real answers. I'm tired of everyone on the staff acting like nothing is wrong from week to week...like we are always just a game away from busting out into playoff worthy play...
This is ridiculous...and its more than just a bad couple of games...
THIS IS CONSECUTIVE SEASONS OF PURE SHIT AND DISAPPOINTMENT...this is not just one game, or one season that I am using as ammunition...
Every year, its something else....
When Rex was blowing it...all we needed was a running game....
When forte was the answer to our running game....it was ortons fault....so we bring in Cutler...
When cutler blows...its cause we dont have receivers...or because our defense had a bad game...or whatever...
does anyone else see this??!? Excuses,.... constantly...im done listening to them...
this is not a PLAYER problem....
yeah...i think we have some lazy, lax attitude players right now....
But everyone is lazy...inherently...its the coaches job to give incentive...to give inspiration...to reward guys with work ethic and to spare me the pain of watching people that dont have it....those players without heart....why are they on my team?
I'd literally rather have a fat ass mentally retarted D lineman that will leave his damn heart on the field...rather than these seemingly 'athletic' peices of shit that dont seem to care.
To me, its an issue with the coaching...
It is a coaches job to get these players ready to play every week....and its simply not being done.
The coaching staff has two foreseeable excuses....or supposed reasons why things arent working out as they expected...neither of which are really that acceptable...and in reality, its probably a horrible combination of both problems.
Either they believe that they are not bringing in the right players, or they are not DOING enough week to week to prepare those players...or to improve them...
They either suck as long term future minded coaches (drafting, trades, ect)...or they suck as short term present minded coaches (in-game adaptations, gameplanning, football innovation, teaching)...
Theres no getting around it guys. Its one or the other...(or in my opinion for this case...BOTH)
I've ALWAYS thought that Chicago had a larger problem with the latter. Terrible in-game coaching....and in the same sense, if you arent that smart during a live game, you cant be that good at foreseeing what that live game will bring you...and thus you will do a poor job in preparing your team for the next opponent week to week.
NOW...im starting to see...that they really arent all that good at bringing in quality talent either...so what ARE they good at??...
The obvious, but painful answer is....nothing. We suck. Someone needs to take Cutler, Briggs, and Knox....and start ALL over. And they need to do it now.
I'm obviously over-reacting and dont truly believe this...maybe in an ideal world...
But realistically we all know it cant be done like that...
So, one can assume....one may ask...alright smarty pants, "How would YOU fix this....realistically?"
Well...I dont get paid millions of dollars to KNOW what to do....but I do have some logic....and I will tell you what that logic might suggest be done....
Draft only offensive lineman...make trades...teach new guys the positions.....do whatever you have to do to get that QB (whom is now our last hope...our only potential savior till 2014) protected...he NEEDS space to do his job...and if you put that much money into a franchise QB...you better put money into all those areas (O-line) that let him earn his money...
...instead, our money is being spent having him fall all over the field, or (potentially) sitting on the bench with an injury received while being chased around like hes the cutest girl in grade school and is running from a bunch of horny 5th grade boys. Real efficient use of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
I dont care about ANYTHING else. The first thing that needs to happen is, we need an O-line in Chicago....a young one...one that can grow with Cutler. No more vets...vets are lazy...and they've already made their money...and have their path cleared to the hall of fame or whatever....get them the FUCK off my team. Bring in a smart offensive line coach...and make it happen...
THIS SHOULD BE A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY -- OVER ALL ELSE...Sparing no expense...with no other considerations...forget about the defense or the receivers....its not going to matter until you take care of this.
The O-line significantly impacts:
-the health of your quarterback
-the success of your quarterback
-the success of your running game
Are these not the three things that we have been struggling with for YEARS???!? How long does it take YOU to figure out where the REAL problem is???!? How long should I be comfortable with it taking the Chicago coaches?? Let me give you a hint. ONE year is too long. One WEEK is too long.... How do you think I feel about SIX years?! I dont...
I dont feel a god damned thing anymore....
With a franchise QB, an O-line, and a D-line.......
thats the start of a team.....
fill in the other positions in any which way you want....the foundation is there....and the rest will fall into place.
This isnt rocket science....
...and I'm not going to do.....what everyone THINKS I'm gonna do.....which is....JUST FREAK OUT...
but yes....yes i am going to do that...
I'm tired of being associated with complete idiots. I deserve better as a fan. I'm ASHAMED that I love the Bears. By doing so, I basically have to admit to the world, everyday of my life, that I am a fan of COMPLETE retards...that I believe in people suited only to fail...that I never learn my lesson...that im illogically and blindly faithful....and that I follow the leadership of a passionless, football retarded, coaching staff.
Listen...I SUPPORT the Special Olympics...
I'm not a FAN of the retard that runs in one of the events....
you see where I'm goin with this???
I'm a fan of this football team because I thought they were a real NFL team...
If all they want is my SUPPORT...cause they are all god damned retards....then fuck...lets all just frolick around the field....no need to be competitive at all...
This is the NFL...this is a business....run it like one...
...or go run a summer camp for retards.
DLP
2009 Regular Season Week 1 - Bears @ GB
Daaaaaaaaaa shittiest game ever...
Personally, I think Cutler will be fine. I think a lot was the pressure…and a lot was compounded by frustration.
Its unfortunate that we start this way…but it may have been inevitable for us to have a game like this…no one is on the same page…and with such a new offense, that has barely had time to work together?…that basically has the potential of putting us at a complete offensive standstill (which is what we saw)…hopefully only during these first few games.
I think that with a few more weeks of working with his group of WRs, getting them on better routes against the blitz, and a couple other minor modifications to the game plan from Turner.....the Bears offense will be good. We just were not ready…in case you couldn’t observe that with your own eyes…
The shittiest part for me…is that despite our pitiful offense…we were STILL given every opportunity to win. Nuts.
Also, I question the gameplan.....why did we let GB dictate the type of game that was to be played...
It was almost instantaneously the most pathetic shootout ive ever seen between Cutler and Rodgers...why?
Our coaches were manipulated into playing exactly the type of game they wanted....and our players couldnt execute....which is exactly what they were banking on.
I'm pretty tired of poor in-game coaching decisions. I dont think the staff avoids blame here. Yes, the receivers were dropping balls. Yes, Cutler was frustrated and 'affected'...but the play calling was pretty bad I thought....very streaky and inconsistent....and basically, the entire game could have been avoided had we come in with a better gameplan (which maybe they had)....but then they should have stuck to it. They diverged from what should have been a 'initiate the run game in the first half' type of gameplan....instead we showed them weaknesses in Cutler and our pass game.....and GB continued to exploit once the wounds were on display.
Good news? I currently am in the lead in all of my fantasy leagues....eat that shit NFL...trying to take away all the joy of my football season starting. Not even possible....not even after making me endure that torture sesh....pure torture.....i would have enjoyed having shards of glass in my penis hole more passionately.
Personally, I think Cutler will be fine. I think a lot was the pressure…and a lot was compounded by frustration.
Its unfortunate that we start this way…but it may have been inevitable for us to have a game like this…no one is on the same page…and with such a new offense, that has barely had time to work together?…that basically has the potential of putting us at a complete offensive standstill (which is what we saw)…hopefully only during these first few games.
I think that with a few more weeks of working with his group of WRs, getting them on better routes against the blitz, and a couple other minor modifications to the game plan from Turner.....the Bears offense will be good. We just were not ready…in case you couldn’t observe that with your own eyes…
The shittiest part for me…is that despite our pitiful offense…we were STILL given every opportunity to win. Nuts.
Also, I question the gameplan.....why did we let GB dictate the type of game that was to be played...
It was almost instantaneously the most pathetic shootout ive ever seen between Cutler and Rodgers...why?
Our coaches were manipulated into playing exactly the type of game they wanted....and our players couldnt execute....which is exactly what they were banking on.
I'm pretty tired of poor in-game coaching decisions. I dont think the staff avoids blame here. Yes, the receivers were dropping balls. Yes, Cutler was frustrated and 'affected'...but the play calling was pretty bad I thought....very streaky and inconsistent....and basically, the entire game could have been avoided had we come in with a better gameplan (which maybe they had)....but then they should have stuck to it. They diverged from what should have been a 'initiate the run game in the first half' type of gameplan....instead we showed them weaknesses in Cutler and our pass game.....and GB continued to exploit once the wounds were on display.
Good news? I currently am in the lead in all of my fantasy leagues....eat that shit NFL...trying to take away all the joy of my football season starting. Not even possible....not even after making me endure that torture sesh....pure torture.....i would have enjoyed having shards of glass in my penis hole more passionately.
2009 Pre-season Game 2 - Bears vs. Giants
So, I'll save you from my normal lengthy examination.....
WHY???
CAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!!! HAHAHAHAHA. Nothing bad anyway.
They were..... everything I thought, expected, and have been saying they could be. PERFECT. With the added bonus of a surprisingly stingy defensive performance...
Im glad they put on a show for all those worryworts....does that satisfy you folks??? we be lookin good.
I cant say much else other than -- like I said....a better offense than any of us have ever seen before. No matter our defensive performance....opponents will be hard off to match our ability to score on every drive.
hakuna matata my peeps...
This is going to be an awesome year...
my cutler jersey is already in the mail.
DLP
WHY???
CAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!!! HAHAHAHAHA. Nothing bad anyway.
They were..... everything I thought, expected, and have been saying they could be. PERFECT. With the added bonus of a surprisingly stingy defensive performance...
Im glad they put on a show for all those worryworts....does that satisfy you folks??? we be lookin good.
I cant say much else other than -- like I said....a better offense than any of us have ever seen before. No matter our defensive performance....opponents will be hard off to match our ability to score on every drive.
hakuna matata my peeps...
This is going to be an awesome year...
my cutler jersey is already in the mail.
DLP
2009 Pre-season Game 1 - Bears @ Bills
If you want to try to feel better about what you saw Saturday....read this... otherwise, dont waste your time...its a long one...and I dont need any guff from anyone. You've been warned....read at your risk...I dont want any comments about length.
So here goes...heres my analysis...
Well,
At points, that was tough to watch...but Im not concerned...ever the Bear optimist.
I dont know about you folks, but I didnt need to see a goddamn thing from the offense in the first pre-season game...
It didnt matter to me if they sucked balls or were lightning in a bottle. All I cared about is Cutler leaving the game healthy...which he did. They dont need to prove anything to me. By regular season, they will be a better offense than we have ever seen from a Bear unit....in my lifetime...that I can remember.
He had some good looks, and some bad ones.... neither really mean anything. Even if he threw nothing but perfect balls, I wouldnt have cared....its simply too early...and the players are just getting their heart rates up...this is about getting gametime experience before the real deal. And certainly, someone like Cutler, doesnt care about being perfect out there....hes just ironing out the kinks. Also...remember...we were sitting out our best player - Forte - which means...they can pretty much assume Cutler is going to throw every play......not hard to key in on a QB when you know hes throwing....and any other option he may have is likely to fall down at the line of scrimmage. (Jones still needs to show me more).
For me it was the defense I wanted to check out....primarily to check out our depth...which I was actually fairly impressed with.
Mind you - I'm primarily talking about the starting line-ups in this e-mail...just a note before I get too far...
I thought they looked good. How could i think so, you ask? What game was I watching? How, when Edwards had the completion percentage that he had...and with the non-starters looking inconsistent as well, can you possibly say such a thing?
Well, you have to remember something. This was the Bears first game. This was the Bills second. Edwards and his starting offense had a couple quarters of working with eachother in a real game situation to pull from, and I personally believe that they took advantage of a lack of cohesion yet to be obtained by the bears starting defense. There is a huge difference between meeting a defense that hasnt played real time yet this year...and playing one with a game under their belt already...
And Edwards having those minutes with his offense...not to mention a week of practices to work on some kinks that were discovered in that first game (ie. problems with the no huddle offense, ect.)...adds to the advantage. Even with that advantage...which to me, is very significant....I still saw some good things...things that I was looking for. Like the d-line.
I thought it looked improved...thats all I wanted to see. There was definitely some decent pressure...and by the time we get to regular season, I have no doubt it will look better. I loved how everyone was flying to the ball. Thats huge. I saw an aggressive defense that had yet to be in gametime situations, all at the same time....they probably practice as units most of the time...so it will take a couple pre-season games to put it all together. I saw a lot of depth...and a lot of special talent that will no doubt result in gamechanging plays come regular season. The defense looked hungry...but were missing cues and messing up some of the little things.........these things will be ironed out.
The defense resembled an older, more stingy, bear defense....if you remember back to like the 2005 pre-season defense....there are some similarities...especially in overall tenacity and 'bigness' of the defense. They were hitting hard...and playing shit out...and getting places fast....even if they should have technically already been there. Thats a mental thing. Physically, they look good....certainly better than I thought. Mentally...they have some stuff to go over and to get ironed out.....but that is to be expected, i would argue.
If you are like me, and never thought for a second that the offense was an issue...this was a good game. The offense did not need to prove shit. And they didnt disprove anything about themselves from this game, as far as I'm concerned. Its preseason. I promise you, we will look 10 times better come regular season. Look at orton's first game. Poor guys personal nightmare... I guarantee, by the time reg season comes along, he will be playing with much more confidence...and be looking much better (I hope...poor guy). I think we can expect the same kind of exponential improvement from Cutler and OUR offense, as the preseason goes on...and certainly by the time we get to GB...we NEED to get it together by then. Starting the season against GB is not an advantage for us in this case. We need to make sure that our offense is ready to go and that they are synching...cause I predict that game will be a shootout....a rivalry shootout at that. We will need Cutler to play well. If he doesnt...forget about it. 0-1.
Give Cutler time...
Hell, compare Edwards first preseason game stats to his second game...I believe Cutler will enjoy the same type of improvement.
Edwards first game - 3 throws for 34 yards and an interception
Edwards second game - 10 of 10 for 79 - no interceptions
Thats a huge difference in performance.....
Cutlers first game - 5 for 10 with 64 yards and an interception
-- That would mean that next game - we can expect something like this from Cutler: 10 of 15 for 109 yards - no interceptions. Total lack of scientificness...but seriously...its a good point. Theres an expected cumulitive growth throughout the preseason.
In any event...I'm not sweating. Next weekend, you will see there is no reason to worry...its just working the kinks.
Although..... Green Bay taking such a chunk out of the Browns early pre-season, makes me a little weary that we face them first. I think we will be ready at that point tho. Its the Browns...what else do you need to know? Not a good team
.....although...an argument to that would be --- its the Bills....
hmmm....
again - Bills game 2 vs Bears game 1....I'd say that accounts for more than 7 points.....
They only won by 7.
Thoughts? Comments? Tell me I dont have a point here.
DLP
So here goes...heres my analysis...
Well,
At points, that was tough to watch...but Im not concerned...ever the Bear optimist.
I dont know about you folks, but I didnt need to see a goddamn thing from the offense in the first pre-season game...
It didnt matter to me if they sucked balls or were lightning in a bottle. All I cared about is Cutler leaving the game healthy...which he did. They dont need to prove anything to me. By regular season, they will be a better offense than we have ever seen from a Bear unit....in my lifetime...that I can remember.
He had some good looks, and some bad ones.... neither really mean anything. Even if he threw nothing but perfect balls, I wouldnt have cared....its simply too early...and the players are just getting their heart rates up...this is about getting gametime experience before the real deal. And certainly, someone like Cutler, doesnt care about being perfect out there....hes just ironing out the kinks. Also...remember...we were sitting out our best player - Forte - which means...they can pretty much assume Cutler is going to throw every play......not hard to key in on a QB when you know hes throwing....and any other option he may have is likely to fall down at the line of scrimmage. (Jones still needs to show me more).
For me it was the defense I wanted to check out....primarily to check out our depth...which I was actually fairly impressed with.
Mind you - I'm primarily talking about the starting line-ups in this e-mail...just a note before I get too far...
I thought they looked good. How could i think so, you ask? What game was I watching? How, when Edwards had the completion percentage that he had...and with the non-starters looking inconsistent as well, can you possibly say such a thing?
Well, you have to remember something. This was the Bears first game. This was the Bills second. Edwards and his starting offense had a couple quarters of working with eachother in a real game situation to pull from, and I personally believe that they took advantage of a lack of cohesion yet to be obtained by the bears starting defense. There is a huge difference between meeting a defense that hasnt played real time yet this year...and playing one with a game under their belt already...
And Edwards having those minutes with his offense...not to mention a week of practices to work on some kinks that were discovered in that first game (ie. problems with the no huddle offense, ect.)...adds to the advantage. Even with that advantage...which to me, is very significant....I still saw some good things...things that I was looking for. Like the d-line.
I thought it looked improved...thats all I wanted to see. There was definitely some decent pressure...and by the time we get to regular season, I have no doubt it will look better. I loved how everyone was flying to the ball. Thats huge. I saw an aggressive defense that had yet to be in gametime situations, all at the same time....they probably practice as units most of the time...so it will take a couple pre-season games to put it all together. I saw a lot of depth...and a lot of special talent that will no doubt result in gamechanging plays come regular season. The defense looked hungry...but were missing cues and messing up some of the little things.........these things will be ironed out.
The defense resembled an older, more stingy, bear defense....if you remember back to like the 2005 pre-season defense....there are some similarities...especially in overall tenacity and 'bigness' of the defense. They were hitting hard...and playing shit out...and getting places fast....even if they should have technically already been there. Thats a mental thing. Physically, they look good....certainly better than I thought. Mentally...they have some stuff to go over and to get ironed out.....but that is to be expected, i would argue.
If you are like me, and never thought for a second that the offense was an issue...this was a good game. The offense did not need to prove shit. And they didnt disprove anything about themselves from this game, as far as I'm concerned. Its preseason. I promise you, we will look 10 times better come regular season. Look at orton's first game. Poor guys personal nightmare... I guarantee, by the time reg season comes along, he will be playing with much more confidence...and be looking much better (I hope...poor guy). I think we can expect the same kind of exponential improvement from Cutler and OUR offense, as the preseason goes on...and certainly by the time we get to GB...we NEED to get it together by then. Starting the season against GB is not an advantage for us in this case. We need to make sure that our offense is ready to go and that they are synching...cause I predict that game will be a shootout....a rivalry shootout at that. We will need Cutler to play well. If he doesnt...forget about it. 0-1.
Give Cutler time...
Hell, compare Edwards first preseason game stats to his second game...I believe Cutler will enjoy the same type of improvement.
Edwards first game - 3 throws for 34 yards and an interception
Edwards second game - 10 of 10 for 79 - no interceptions
Thats a huge difference in performance.....
Cutlers first game - 5 for 10 with 64 yards and an interception
-- That would mean that next game - we can expect something like this from Cutler: 10 of 15 for 109 yards - no interceptions. Total lack of scientificness...but seriously...its a good point. Theres an expected cumulitive growth throughout the preseason.
In any event...I'm not sweating. Next weekend, you will see there is no reason to worry...its just working the kinks.
Although..... Green Bay taking such a chunk out of the Browns early pre-season, makes me a little weary that we face them first. I think we will be ready at that point tho. Its the Browns...what else do you need to know? Not a good team
.....although...an argument to that would be --- its the Bills....
hmmm....
again - Bills game 2 vs Bears game 1....I'd say that accounts for more than 7 points.....
They only won by 7.
Thoughts? Comments? Tell me I dont have a point here.
DLP
Thursday, November 19, 2009
2008 Offseason - Shed Masta Flex
Shed Masta Flex types...
"I'm now settled back in after the wedding and ready to opine on the Bears. Since the Cutler trade there have been three main themes about Cutler and the Bears, 1 positive, 2 negative.
Positive: The Bears drastically improved at the quarterback position by trading for a premier quarterback
Negative 1: Despite his talents, Cutler is a gunslinger and makes more bad decisions and poor plays than a game manager like Orton.
Negative 2: The Bears have poor receivers, so the impact of the Cutler trade will be less than is expected
I don't want to set expectations unreasonably high because I'm tired of being disappointed when I'm wrong (see 2008 Cubs). I looked into the two negative themes to see if there was any merit to them.
Thoughts on Theme 1: When looking at the percentage of overall attempts, Cutler's play is not any more risky than Orton's.
Cutler has fewer poor throws, passes hit at the line and "Other" throws than Orton as a percentage of his overall attempts.
Looking at the raw numbers, Cutler's 18 interceptions last year look a lot worse than Orton's 12, but my contention is that Cutler's mistake numbers were actually about the same as Orton's.
Cutler and Orton's receivers dropped more passes than any of the other QBs receivers above (I will touch on this further below).
Cutler's "Other" numbers are especially low. Orton's numbers are especially high.
Not sure exactly whats in Other, but my guess would be intentional throws out of bounds and spikes. Meaning Cutler not only throws for huge yards, but also goes for it when others might end the play (and he still doesn't have elevated mistake numbers).
He has Big Nuts - a positive in almost any sport except cycling.
Manning is a world class quarterback. In my mind his only flaw is the happy feet he gets when under pressure. He might be the best ever. Warner, to his credit, had a world class season in 2009.
Conclusion: In 2008 Cutler made roughly the same amount of mistakes as a percentage of his overall attempts as Orton, but threw for nearly 1,500 more yards and seven more TDs.
Thoughts on Theme 2: The Bears receiving corps may look a lot different from Denver's 2008 group, but they will not drastically hurt Cutler's performance like the media and Donald Driver say they will.
Bears Broncos
Total Yards 3229 4545
Yards After Catch (YAC) 1564 1891
YAC Percentage 48.4% 41.6%
Total Yards YAC YAC Percentage
Bears Devin Hester 665 216 32.5%
Greg Olsen 574 270 47.0%
Matt Forte 477 441 92.5%
Broncos Brandon Marshall 1265 439 34.7%
Eddie Royal 980 359 36.6%
Tony Scheffler 645 206 31.9%
Denver and Chicago receivers had the same amount of dropped passes as a percentage of overall attempts (see first table above).
Bears receivers gained more yards after catch (YAC) than Broncos receivers as a percentage of their overall receiving yards.
Matt Forte gained a stunning 92% of his receiving yards after the catch. I don't think anyone gives him enough credit for how surehanded he is, how quickly he brings the ball in and makes his first move, and how good he is at making one excellent cut that will get him five yards alone. His receiving skills could help extend his career once he loses his speed 7-10 years down the road.
G
reg Olsen gained almost half of his yards after the catch. Everyone in the media has been saying that he is going to have a good year next year, but I haven't heard anyone put themselves out there and say he'll make the pro bowl. I am about to make that prediction - Greg Olsen makes the pro bowl.
Conclusions - The Bears top two wide receivers are worse than the Broncos top two wide receivers, but the Bears make up for it with their TEs and backs. Cutler won't throw for 4,500 yards again this year, but he will singlehandedly get the Bears 2-3 wins and will again be recognized as an elite quarterback in the NFL.
I still have a couple of lingering questions about Cutler including but not limited to - Why does he have a chubby face? Why did it take him 20+ years to realize he had type 1 diabetes? If he contracted type 1 diabetes in adulthood, is this worse than having it your whole life?
Ultimately I think the Josh McDaniels made a very stupid mistake - he traded a sure thing for a couple of low percentage chances at a sure thing and an average quarterback. Cutler had good reason to be pissed - no one trades an elite quarterback in their prime - the Broncos shopping Cutler signaled to him that they didn't think he was an elite quarterback. He took exception to this, and while I think he could have handled it better I don't blame him.
I'll end with this - a list of Bears starting Quarterbacks. Its a sorry list, but one that is about to get a whole lot better:
Dressen • Conzelman • Driscoll • Molesworth • Masterson • Luckman • Lujack • Blanda • Brown • Bratkowski • Wade • Bukich • Concannon • Carter • Douglass • Huff • Avellini • Phipps • Evans • Landry • Flutie • Lisch • McMahon • Fuller • Tomczak • Harbaugh • Willis • Walsh • Kramer • Mirer • Moreno • Krieg • Matthews • Mirer • McNown • Miller • Chandler • Burris • Stewart • Hutchinson • Quinn • Krenzel • Grossman • Orton • Griese
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Shed Masta...
absolutely GREAT stuff...
a couple things i have to just give you props for....
-big nuts are valuable in every sport except cycling...(i would add playing wiffle ball on fucked up terrain to that short list of exception sports)
-chubby face
-olsen prediction (agreed wholeheartedly)
You know...im just glad that there is someone else that I trust, and whos opinion matters to me....that agrees that Cutler is going to be great for this team despite what the 'professionals' are focusing on in the media.
to me, its obvious. But there are a shitload of naysayers out there....so i was starting to feel like i must just have a huge bias for the guy. The fact is...it will have less to do with him, and more to do with our team in general. He will come in and play QB better than anyone we have seen. The bigger question for bear fans SHOULD be...'how well will the REST of our team perform?'
Cutler, and the passing game, is the absolute LEAST of our worries....period.
a.) since when has passing game been important at all in bears football? I think that it should begin to be important, now that we have some opportunity there. But the way i see it...our advancements in the passing game are simply a bonus. The run game has to remain our focus. when that fails? throw the ball. Now, when we throw it, we might move the chains instead of turning it over. thats the difference.
b.) regardless of who our receivers are...and their arguable skill levels....there are targets out there (as Shed mentions - an amazing back, and TEs that other teams would kill for)....and thats what Cutler does.....hit targets.....on the numbers. Anyone who argues accuracy with Cutler is an idiot. He is going to throw the ball wherever there is opportunity. If our entire offense had their hands amputated...THEN (and only then,) would I be worried. Until then...fuck you....Cutler is going make throws....and if he hits people in the hands....chances are, they are going to catch it. i like my odds, whether its marshall and royal, or hester and lloyd....they are targets....thats all. Cutler will get it where it needs to be. What else can you ask of his position? And as you can see from Sheds handy stat charting.....the discrepency between the Denver and Chicago receiving corps is hardly what it is made out to be...
c.) Cutlers high interceptions are (to me) explained by poor defense and the need to take unusual offensive risks in order to stay in games. Does anyone expect the Bear Defense to resemble Denvers last year? haha...maybe thats not a good question to ask. But my hope was that the answer would be 'no, they wont be that bad'. so then, whats the problem? fuck off. True, Cutler is not known as a game manager....but when has he been put in a cushy enough position where thats all he was EXPECTED to be? How hard is it to start thinking more conservatively? This will not be a difficult transition for him. He will be just as good of a game manager as Orton, with the added bonus of being used to the pressure of making big plays when he really has to. the kids a gunslinger...but hes not a retard. c'mon now. he can hone it in and control his risks (I sincerely hope...HE IS a GUNSLINGER). especially under our sometimes frustratingly conservative coaching. Cutler will have plenty of chances to be the hero....he will have no incentive to make risky judgement calls when its not called for.
d.) Cutler changes our whole system. No longer can opponents assume anything about how they will be attacked by the bears. For this reason, I will preemptively credit Cutler for much more than Ed's predicted 2-3 wins. I think his mere presence on the team changes everything....and he and forte combined will pretty much summarize the key players in our win category the whole season....with a word up to our future pro-bowler Olsen, of course....
Thanks to SHED, for taking what I try to say, and making it readable...and backing it up with real stuff that makes sense. I'm not hard to convince in this regard.....but anyone who isnt convinced after reading this Shed-mail above, is severely pesimistic. I have nothing but hope for this season....and if I thought I might be disappointed, I would keep my feelings of hope about the season, a little bit more on the quiet side.....
To be clear.....I have high hopes for this season, and more...strong BELIEFS about a potential uncanny streak of success with the 'next gen bears' as i will call them.......and doubt i will be disappointed....
I'll take my chances that I may have to eat it big time....i sincerely believe we are about to be amazed.
if there is a Cutler bandwagon.....im driving it.
DLP
"I'm now settled back in after the wedding and ready to opine on the Bears. Since the Cutler trade there have been three main themes about Cutler and the Bears, 1 positive, 2 negative.
Positive: The Bears drastically improved at the quarterback position by trading for a premier quarterback
Negative 1: Despite his talents, Cutler is a gunslinger and makes more bad decisions and poor plays than a game manager like Orton.
Negative 2: The Bears have poor receivers, so the impact of the Cutler trade will be less than is expected
I don't want to set expectations unreasonably high because I'm tired of being disappointed when I'm wrong (see 2008 Cubs). I looked into the two negative themes to see if there was any merit to them.
Thoughts on Theme 1: When looking at the percentage of overall attempts, Cutler's play is not any more risky than Orton's.
Cutler has fewer poor throws, passes hit at the line and "Other" throws than Orton as a percentage of his overall attempts.
Looking at the raw numbers, Cutler's 18 interceptions last year look a lot worse than Orton's 12, but my contention is that Cutler's mistake numbers were actually about the same as Orton's.
Cutler and Orton's receivers dropped more passes than any of the other QBs receivers above (I will touch on this further below).
Cutler's "Other" numbers are especially low. Orton's numbers are especially high.
Not sure exactly whats in Other, but my guess would be intentional throws out of bounds and spikes. Meaning Cutler not only throws for huge yards, but also goes for it when others might end the play (and he still doesn't have elevated mistake numbers).
He has Big Nuts - a positive in almost any sport except cycling.
Manning is a world class quarterback. In my mind his only flaw is the happy feet he gets when under pressure. He might be the best ever. Warner, to his credit, had a world class season in 2009.
Conclusion: In 2008 Cutler made roughly the same amount of mistakes as a percentage of his overall attempts as Orton, but threw for nearly 1,500 more yards and seven more TDs.
Thoughts on Theme 2: The Bears receiving corps may look a lot different from Denver's 2008 group, but they will not drastically hurt Cutler's performance like the media and Donald Driver say they will.
Bears Broncos
Total Yards 3229 4545
Yards After Catch (YAC) 1564 1891
YAC Percentage 48.4% 41.6%
Total Yards YAC YAC Percentage
Bears Devin Hester 665 216 32.5%
Greg Olsen 574 270 47.0%
Matt Forte 477 441 92.5%
Broncos Brandon Marshall 1265 439 34.7%
Eddie Royal 980 359 36.6%
Tony Scheffler 645 206 31.9%
Denver and Chicago receivers had the same amount of dropped passes as a percentage of overall attempts (see first table above).
Bears receivers gained more yards after catch (YAC) than Broncos receivers as a percentage of their overall receiving yards.
Matt Forte gained a stunning 92% of his receiving yards after the catch. I don't think anyone gives him enough credit for how surehanded he is, how quickly he brings the ball in and makes his first move, and how good he is at making one excellent cut that will get him five yards alone. His receiving skills could help extend his career once he loses his speed 7-10 years down the road.
G
reg Olsen gained almost half of his yards after the catch. Everyone in the media has been saying that he is going to have a good year next year, but I haven't heard anyone put themselves out there and say he'll make the pro bowl. I am about to make that prediction - Greg Olsen makes the pro bowl.
Conclusions - The Bears top two wide receivers are worse than the Broncos top two wide receivers, but the Bears make up for it with their TEs and backs. Cutler won't throw for 4,500 yards again this year, but he will singlehandedly get the Bears 2-3 wins and will again be recognized as an elite quarterback in the NFL.
I still have a couple of lingering questions about Cutler including but not limited to - Why does he have a chubby face? Why did it take him 20+ years to realize he had type 1 diabetes? If he contracted type 1 diabetes in adulthood, is this worse than having it your whole life?
Ultimately I think the Josh McDaniels made a very stupid mistake - he traded a sure thing for a couple of low percentage chances at a sure thing and an average quarterback. Cutler had good reason to be pissed - no one trades an elite quarterback in their prime - the Broncos shopping Cutler signaled to him that they didn't think he was an elite quarterback. He took exception to this, and while I think he could have handled it better I don't blame him.
I'll end with this - a list of Bears starting Quarterbacks. Its a sorry list, but one that is about to get a whole lot better:
Dressen • Conzelman • Driscoll • Molesworth • Masterson • Luckman • Lujack • Blanda • Brown • Bratkowski • Wade • Bukich • Concannon • Carter • Douglass • Huff • Avellini • Phipps • Evans • Landry • Flutie • Lisch • McMahon • Fuller • Tomczak • Harbaugh • Willis • Walsh • Kramer • Mirer • Moreno • Krieg • Matthews • Mirer • McNown • Miller • Chandler • Burris • Stewart • Hutchinson • Quinn • Krenzel • Grossman • Orton • Griese
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Shed Masta...
absolutely GREAT stuff...
a couple things i have to just give you props for....
-big nuts are valuable in every sport except cycling...(i would add playing wiffle ball on fucked up terrain to that short list of exception sports)
-chubby face
-olsen prediction (agreed wholeheartedly)
You know...im just glad that there is someone else that I trust, and whos opinion matters to me....that agrees that Cutler is going to be great for this team despite what the 'professionals' are focusing on in the media.
to me, its obvious. But there are a shitload of naysayers out there....so i was starting to feel like i must just have a huge bias for the guy. The fact is...it will have less to do with him, and more to do with our team in general. He will come in and play QB better than anyone we have seen. The bigger question for bear fans SHOULD be...'how well will the REST of our team perform?'
Cutler, and the passing game, is the absolute LEAST of our worries....period.
a.) since when has passing game been important at all in bears football? I think that it should begin to be important, now that we have some opportunity there. But the way i see it...our advancements in the passing game are simply a bonus. The run game has to remain our focus. when that fails? throw the ball. Now, when we throw it, we might move the chains instead of turning it over. thats the difference.
b.) regardless of who our receivers are...and their arguable skill levels....there are targets out there (as Shed mentions - an amazing back, and TEs that other teams would kill for)....and thats what Cutler does.....hit targets.....on the numbers. Anyone who argues accuracy with Cutler is an idiot. He is going to throw the ball wherever there is opportunity. If our entire offense had their hands amputated...THEN (and only then,) would I be worried. Until then...fuck you....Cutler is going make throws....and if he hits people in the hands....chances are, they are going to catch it. i like my odds, whether its marshall and royal, or hester and lloyd....they are targets....thats all. Cutler will get it where it needs to be. What else can you ask of his position? And as you can see from Sheds handy stat charting.....the discrepency between the Denver and Chicago receiving corps is hardly what it is made out to be...
c.) Cutlers high interceptions are (to me) explained by poor defense and the need to take unusual offensive risks in order to stay in games. Does anyone expect the Bear Defense to resemble Denvers last year? haha...maybe thats not a good question to ask. But my hope was that the answer would be 'no, they wont be that bad'. so then, whats the problem? fuck off. True, Cutler is not known as a game manager....but when has he been put in a cushy enough position where thats all he was EXPECTED to be? How hard is it to start thinking more conservatively? This will not be a difficult transition for him. He will be just as good of a game manager as Orton, with the added bonus of being used to the pressure of making big plays when he really has to. the kids a gunslinger...but hes not a retard. c'mon now. he can hone it in and control his risks (I sincerely hope...HE IS a GUNSLINGER). especially under our sometimes frustratingly conservative coaching. Cutler will have plenty of chances to be the hero....he will have no incentive to make risky judgement calls when its not called for.
d.) Cutler changes our whole system. No longer can opponents assume anything about how they will be attacked by the bears. For this reason, I will preemptively credit Cutler for much more than Ed's predicted 2-3 wins. I think his mere presence on the team changes everything....and he and forte combined will pretty much summarize the key players in our win category the whole season....with a word up to our future pro-bowler Olsen, of course....
Thanks to SHED, for taking what I try to say, and making it readable...and backing it up with real stuff that makes sense. I'm not hard to convince in this regard.....but anyone who isnt convinced after reading this Shed-mail above, is severely pesimistic. I have nothing but hope for this season....and if I thought I might be disappointed, I would keep my feelings of hope about the season, a little bit more on the quiet side.....
To be clear.....I have high hopes for this season, and more...strong BELIEFS about a potential uncanny streak of success with the 'next gen bears' as i will call them.......and doubt i will be disappointed....
I'll take my chances that I may have to eat it big time....i sincerely believe we are about to be amazed.
if there is a Cutler bandwagon.....im driving it.
DLP
2008 Offseason - Bears Draft...
so, sometimes bahkus and I have separate conversations outside the realm of this forum (so as to spare the majority of you that dont care what I have to say. -- not to say that bahkus cares what i have to say....but he is at least a bit more tolerant of me and my bears obsession -- if not fighting off one of his own)
In any event...there is often some Bahkus knowledge that he imparts, that I feel everyone should see. I usually keep it to myself, but I feel on this occasion, he says it so well, that it is a must-read... on the topic of the bears draft.
So, here is Bahkus's take:
"Not sure yet. Really to me, the most important picks are the first two: Jarron Gilbert and Juaquin Iglesias. Jarron is raw talent, and is supposed to be an athletic freak of nature with like a seven foot wing-span. His body type reminds me of Israel Idonije, and he’s supposed to be really fast. They probably want him to be a defensive tackle as opposed to a defensive end. If Marinelli can coach him up, he could add a lot of depth and athleticism to the middle of the line.
Juaquin Iglesias – I’ve read a lot of mixed stories about this guy. There were some teams that supposedly had him as a second rounder. Other “experts” say that he won’t be any more than a number three slot receiver. But he’s supposed to be a possession guy, which is exactly what they want to complement Hester. I think he sees the field this year, since really our receiver corp is now made up of Hester, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, and bench/practice squad players. I foresee it being Hester on one side, Bennett on the other, with Iglesias in the slot. That is, if Bennett can play like a starter… we shall see.
I think D.J. Moore will be good. I know the reason he dropped so far was due to his height, but I’ve read that he projects to be a similar player to Nathan Vasher. That’s a good thing to project to, despite the fact that Vasher has sucked the last couple of years. Remember a time when we used to think that nobody threw to Vasher’s cover for a reason? Iglesias has a vertical jump of like 39 inches or something. That’s ridiculous. He plays bigger than he is.
I don’t know much about the other guys. Henry Melton, or whatever his name is, is a DE, which will add depth to our line again. But we don’t know what he’ll be. Again, I think this is a pick blatantly aimed at Rod Marinelli. We’re saying that if he is one of the best defensive line coaches in the league, if not the best, that he will be able to coach these guys up… take their raw talent and athleticism, and make them polished.
Johnny Knox, the fifth/sixth round receiver, is supposed to be tremendously fast, with “vacuum hands”. But he’s extremely raw, and I don’t trust our receivers coach. He won’t play this year. But man, he’s supposed to be fast.
Overall, considering that we got Cutler, I like what they did. We added depth to the defensive line and the receiver corp. At least this way you get some good competition at two areas that need it.
Now we just need to figure out the safety position. The guy they drafted projects as a strong safety. Honestly? If they don’t find someone else, I see us going out and bring Mike Brown back in, at least for locker room purposes. He’s still sitting out there waiting for a call. It can’t hurt if you’ve got no other options. I just don’t feel comfortable saying that Craig Steltz is our starting free safety."
I couldnt have said it better, and agree wholeheartedly with much of what you are saying here M-box. Now, we have all seen Jarrods pool quake footage thanks to MElons recent e-mail. Obviously that was a steal for the 3rd round...perhaps the steal of the draft...but what of the rest of these guys?
There seems to be a lot of discrepency over Iglesias. I think he was a good pick for the 3rd round....but that he will not likely be the answer we were necessarily looking for (But Bears fans were overzealous at the idea of resolving ALL of our problems this year with ideal resolutions -- sorry...shit doesnt work like that).
I'm not sure the answer to our WR issues could have been better taken care of with 3rd round picks or worse tho....so I'm actually satisfied with the pick despite some of the mixed stories.
I think it is Knox that will be the most interesting to see develop. That guy is fast as hell, and I think he will play just for that sole reason. With an arm like Cutlers, and lack of skill at receiver...this guy can come in and make a difference.
Back to Iglesias...as bahkus suggests, he will fill a role...and I think he will fill it nicely. Is he the next Jerry Rice? no. I dont know what people expected the bears to get? We were never going to get an unquestionably great, gone in the first round receiver, given the picks we were working with. Ridiculous to think otherwise.
Hes a good receiver pickup for the 2nd pick in the third round...bottom line. I agree with bahkus - he probably sees the field this year....i think they both will (knox too)....and more....that at least one of them will make a bigger impact than the naysayers are currently suggesting. Once again...always the Bears optimist...
What do the rest of you think?
DLP (featuring mmmbahkus)
In any event...there is often some Bahkus knowledge that he imparts, that I feel everyone should see. I usually keep it to myself, but I feel on this occasion, he says it so well, that it is a must-read... on the topic of the bears draft.
So, here is Bahkus's take:
"Not sure yet. Really to me, the most important picks are the first two: Jarron Gilbert and Juaquin Iglesias. Jarron is raw talent, and is supposed to be an athletic freak of nature with like a seven foot wing-span. His body type reminds me of Israel Idonije, and he’s supposed to be really fast. They probably want him to be a defensive tackle as opposed to a defensive end. If Marinelli can coach him up, he could add a lot of depth and athleticism to the middle of the line.
Juaquin Iglesias – I’ve read a lot of mixed stories about this guy. There were some teams that supposedly had him as a second rounder. Other “experts” say that he won’t be any more than a number three slot receiver. But he’s supposed to be a possession guy, which is exactly what they want to complement Hester. I think he sees the field this year, since really our receiver corp is now made up of Hester, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, and bench/practice squad players. I foresee it being Hester on one side, Bennett on the other, with Iglesias in the slot. That is, if Bennett can play like a starter… we shall see.
I think D.J. Moore will be good. I know the reason he dropped so far was due to his height, but I’ve read that he projects to be a similar player to Nathan Vasher. That’s a good thing to project to, despite the fact that Vasher has sucked the last couple of years. Remember a time when we used to think that nobody threw to Vasher’s cover for a reason? Iglesias has a vertical jump of like 39 inches or something. That’s ridiculous. He plays bigger than he is.
I don’t know much about the other guys. Henry Melton, or whatever his name is, is a DE, which will add depth to our line again. But we don’t know what he’ll be. Again, I think this is a pick blatantly aimed at Rod Marinelli. We’re saying that if he is one of the best defensive line coaches in the league, if not the best, that he will be able to coach these guys up… take their raw talent and athleticism, and make them polished.
Johnny Knox, the fifth/sixth round receiver, is supposed to be tremendously fast, with “vacuum hands”. But he’s extremely raw, and I don’t trust our receivers coach. He won’t play this year. But man, he’s supposed to be fast.
Overall, considering that we got Cutler, I like what they did. We added depth to the defensive line and the receiver corp. At least this way you get some good competition at two areas that need it.
Now we just need to figure out the safety position. The guy they drafted projects as a strong safety. Honestly? If they don’t find someone else, I see us going out and bring Mike Brown back in, at least for locker room purposes. He’s still sitting out there waiting for a call. It can’t hurt if you’ve got no other options. I just don’t feel comfortable saying that Craig Steltz is our starting free safety."
I couldnt have said it better, and agree wholeheartedly with much of what you are saying here M-box. Now, we have all seen Jarrods pool quake footage thanks to MElons recent e-mail. Obviously that was a steal for the 3rd round...perhaps the steal of the draft...but what of the rest of these guys?
There seems to be a lot of discrepency over Iglesias. I think he was a good pick for the 3rd round....but that he will not likely be the answer we were necessarily looking for (But Bears fans were overzealous at the idea of resolving ALL of our problems this year with ideal resolutions -- sorry...shit doesnt work like that).
I'm not sure the answer to our WR issues could have been better taken care of with 3rd round picks or worse tho....so I'm actually satisfied with the pick despite some of the mixed stories.
I think it is Knox that will be the most interesting to see develop. That guy is fast as hell, and I think he will play just for that sole reason. With an arm like Cutlers, and lack of skill at receiver...this guy can come in and make a difference.
Back to Iglesias...as bahkus suggests, he will fill a role...and I think he will fill it nicely. Is he the next Jerry Rice? no. I dont know what people expected the bears to get? We were never going to get an unquestionably great, gone in the first round receiver, given the picks we were working with. Ridiculous to think otherwise.
Hes a good receiver pickup for the 2nd pick in the third round...bottom line. I agree with bahkus - he probably sees the field this year....i think they both will (knox too)....and more....that at least one of them will make a bigger impact than the naysayers are currently suggesting. Once again...always the Bears optimist...
What do the rest of you think?
DLP (featuring mmmbahkus)
2008 Offseason - Steeler fans are dumb...
So, sometimes when im bored...i read fan blogs, so i can finally understand why sometimes terrorism makes sense.
today, im really bored....with nothing left to do before i leave for vegas tomorrow..... so i apologize if this is not as entertaining for you folks... but i will be violating your inboxes with stupidity...as usual.
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steelermofoe:
"Can Detroit find any takers for the number 1 pick?How about to Atlanta for Michael Vick, a second round and two decent players?"
psycho ninja 69:"i must have read that post wrong steeler...
vick for the number 1 pick, and a second round pick and 2 players???
your joking right..."
steelermofoe:
"Yes. none wants the number 1 pick. the guaranteed money is too much. Atlanta will take it just to save face."
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HAAhahaha
heres another steeler fan gem......hahaha...god they are stupid...
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steeler6789:
"crabs is too short and slow to go #1, Detroit will not pick another reciever at that spot it will be Sanchez to appeal to the hispanic fan base. Crabs will go to Oakland to give garcia someone to throw to whil jammMarcus continues to develop in time to opt out and go to a better team so he doesn't waste his career in Oakland. the Saints will be in LA in 2012 and JaMarcus want to get into Hollywood so that would be a good fit."
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...hispanic fan base.....hilarious. Where does that come into play with regard to what to do with a #1....lordy
DLP
today, im really bored....with nothing left to do before i leave for vegas tomorrow..... so i apologize if this is not as entertaining for you folks... but i will be violating your inboxes with stupidity...as usual.
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steelermofoe:
"Can Detroit find any takers for the number 1 pick?How about to Atlanta for Michael Vick, a second round and two decent players?"
psycho ninja 69:"i must have read that post wrong steeler...
vick for the number 1 pick, and a second round pick and 2 players???
your joking right..."
steelermofoe:
"Yes. none wants the number 1 pick. the guaranteed money is too much. Atlanta will take it just to save face."
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HAAhahaha
heres another steeler fan gem......hahaha...god they are stupid...
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steeler6789:
"crabs is too short and slow to go #1, Detroit will not pick another reciever at that spot it will be Sanchez to appeal to the hispanic fan base. Crabs will go to Oakland to give garcia someone to throw to whil jammMarcus continues to develop in time to opt out and go to a better team so he doesn't waste his career in Oakland. the Saints will be in LA in 2012 and JaMarcus want to get into Hollywood so that would be a good fit."
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...hispanic fan base.....hilarious. Where does that come into play with regard to what to do with a #1....lordy
DLP
2008 Offseason - A Jay Bear? Cutler is signed...
"According to Wikipedia, Jay Cutler was also born in Santa Claus, Indiana."
yeah...apparently this fact is also the media's hot topic....they will not shut up about it....(and Dave, this has nothing to do with you...I've just heard this fact non stop since Thursday, like its the only important thing about the Cutler trade...otherwise it IS interesting info... and appreciated in this forum)
news radio this morning: "it used to be called santa claus land....now its holiday land....isnt that interesting?"
no its not...tell me about how cutler's arm will rape the NFC....
or about the fact that the bears franchise will never be the same...
Santa Claus IN...interesting...but as a football fan...who cares.....
the bears finally have a qb....THIS is newsworthy all on its own...
and as for the articles i have seen that minimize this pickup, saying that Chicago doesnt realize what we are in for, since cutler is a baby and will hardly be able to handle the fickle bear fan way...
I'm sorry, but it is foolish to write such things....
You dont play in Elway's shadow for however many years with yet unacheived sky high expectations, and NOT have balls. He had (still does) Denver fans like putty in his hands....they loved him....EVEN THO there were unfulfilled expectations.
The nonsense about him being dramatic and overly sensitive comes from people that need to have a counterpoint. Sorry...theres no counterpoint...this was a GREAT trade...straight up. The dudes got brass....and the only thing I see preventing him from becoming successful in our scheme, is injury....not high maintenance like some would have you believe...
He's got high expectations here in Chicago, true....like he DIDNT in Denver? Give me a break...
He didnt have the surrounding cast in Denver...anyone that says that it was CUTLER to blame for the Bronco playoffless past couple of years is an idiot.
I think in chicago, he will have a much better surrounding cast (one would think...but this IS the Bears afterall)....and like Jon said....we will very likely (and HOPEFULLY) coast into the playoffs this year...
I am extremely excited about this...and I dont care who knows it...I'll hype him until I see him play shitty. Ive watched him play since he started over Plummer....hes money....and hes EXACTLY what we need. My dreams couldnt have been reflected into reality more perfectly....
Thanks to the Bears organization for finally growing a pair, and making moves....the RIGHT moves....im encouraged. I did like Orton though...and will root for him in Denver. He will likely be better off without the Chicago curse.
Naysayers beware...I will hunt you down and kill you with a fine tooth comb in your penis hole.
I'm drinking the Cutler kool-aid...so "sports analysts," who so willingly pretend like they know what they are talking about...like they know someone personally...and believe them to be too sensitive...shut the fuck up....your idiots...and you obviously havent been watching him play for the past couple of years....
call him anything else....impulsive....tempermental....aggressive...a risktaker...unafraid of consequences...
but, overly sensitive....im not buying....
all the other possible descriptions, are exactly what we need in chicago...
I'll kill you...
DLP
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Bouch says, "bring back rex!"
yes...that too...
with the new size of our O-line...if I had concerns that he couldnt see where the hell he was throwing before...(and i did)....i think now we'd find him having even MORE difficulty...
but would i mind having rex as a backup to cutler? nah...not really.
a.) hopefully he wouldnt be needed, cause if he is...we are all but fucked kindly...
b.) he was always used innappropriately. Hes very accurate...and probably a good qb...IF you use him like you should....given some of his shortcomings.... he cant be used the same way a Cutler (and most normal sized qbs) would be best used....that was always the problem... coaches were trying to make him into a different type of qb that didnt fit his skill set/physical characteristics... instead of using the skills that he DOES have in a way that they most effectively benefit the team...
So sure....bring Rex back........
...just change your in-game strategy if hes forced to go in.... hes NOT cutler....and hes not orton either. he MAY be the shortest QB in the NFL right now tho...does that escape coaches? somehow...it seemed to. (by the way...IS rex the shortest QB currently? is Flutie still on a bench somewhere? )
i digress, anywho.......hes sexy rexy...you have to account for that in your strategy...
fine tooth comb bouch.....fine tooth comb....
...think about that before you "poop" up my inbox...
(he sent me an e-mail that simply said "poop" ......nothing else....unaggravated...)
watch your peehole biotch...
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Wow, am i crazy pissed and formidable right now....maybe its just cause its a monday or whatever...but im about to shit on someones windsheild.
Before I became enraged...I was peacefully corresponding with a friend of mine and was going to supply my friendly Bear fans with an outside perspective...peacefully...so here is my attempt to not rustle any feathers...I cant promise how long it will be before I start taking my frustration out on the poor people receiving my e-mails today...i must make clear, that i may make some rude comments out of anger...but my anger is not with any of you...you are all helpless victims...i will try to control myself...
This is an e-mail from one of my work contacts that lives in Denver....
for a bit of background...I obviously gave him some grief about stealing his star qb on Thursday...specifically I was questioning if he (Cutler)was in fact a baby, despite my feelings otherwise...
heres my buddy's response:
"Well, here’s what I think about the self imposed highway robbery that was “The Cutler Trade.”
1) Offensive stars tend to shut the f up when they are in a town where everyone comes to the games to watch their defense. Chi-town kind of reminds me of Baton Rouge with LSU…Linebackers are the star players, not pansy ass snap-counters.
2.) Winning gives everyone a good attitude. Cutler was something like 17-20 as a starter…and he was friggin 13-1 when defense allowed 21 points or fewer. He’s gonna be a happy little diabetic knowing that his touchdowns aren’t a waste of time.
3) Cutler has honking balls man. Most QB’s come to Denver and shy away from the Elway comparisons. He was a nice guy about it for a while, and then finally said, “Fuck it, I have a better arm than Elway. I railed on his wife.”
4) He was 13-1 in games where the defense showed up…and he did that without a running back. You guys have the RB, a good tight end, a defense, and a special teams player that’s going to the hall of fame. It should be a very good year my man.
5) Now the Saints have to play against Cutler. This one pisses me off, because that secondary can’t handle a gun like Cutler picking them apart (as was proven last year when the score was something like 305-307 here in Denver).
6) Denver will have a 5-11 season, fans will revolt, and the football gods will smite them for three years to come for running every decent element of last years team out of town.
Enjoy your stupid Lombardy trophy. Fuck face."
The Saints comment (#5) is because hes originally out of New Orleans, so his fanhood goes Saints THEN Denver....also a HUGE LSU fan...
I know...so much to make fun of....it hurts me sometimes...
Although we BOTH like the Saints, and I think he is being humble when he suggests that the Saints may struggle this year. We have both agreed that we think this is their year. And I have told him not to worry about his Broncos either. I think Orton does well there. I know I will be rooting for him...I've always kind of liked Denver.
now i dont claim to be a football expert, by any means...but i DO CARE about football...i try to learn about it when i can, and understand things at a more complex level than "Oh, what fun it is to watch all these monkeys run around chasing a ball"
and i know that there are other people out there like me...we arent coaches...we arent talent scouts....we are just REAL football fans...and we happen not to be dumb as well....always good. its arguable whether or not im dumb...but you get the point.
So...as you can see...an unbiased football-EDUCATED person (as opposed to a "sports analyst" looking for material to fill a page), KNOWS that Chicago made a great trade...and that it is unlikely that Cutlers supposed sensitivity will be an issue.
Now I personally wasnt worried about this anyway...but it just really REALLY gets under my skin when Chicago based sports critics actually publish shit like the shit ive seen.
Wheres the accountability? wheres the integrity? This is why Bears fans (in general)....the ones that call for Hanie and boo Orton out of the half, when Orton has a few incompletes....THIS is why those Bear fans exist.....our writers are feeding them their stupidity....they are breeding Chicago sports retardism...
cause heres what happens...
fans think that they know what they are talking about, BECAUSE they take the time to read this blasphemy....then they go around town thinking that because they read this collection of articles from the "experts", they too are now an expert (yes, im guilty of this)....and can go around making idiotic statements...spreading the stupidity....then HIS friend thinks because his buddy reads all the articles...he MUST know what hes talking about....so then he repeats what HE says like hes some sort of football genius...and so on and so forth...
let me tell you something...NO ONE is impressed that you can boo when everyone else does...
And anyone with a brain can read some of the shit that chicago writers come out with and realize that it is filler...drama...sports soap opera...crap...meaningless ungrounded opinions of some shmuck that has no business writing about knitting....let alone sports....or more specifically football.
(cause some sports can be commented on by retards - ie. baseball)...haha - eat that shit baseball fans -- half of you really only like it for fantasy anyway...suck my balls...baseball is NOT that awesome...deal with it...
that will get some responses...
moving on...my point is...
Chicago (Bear) fans are not fickle....chicago just has a bunch of people that arent really fans period...and they are outspoken...cause theyre all "smart" as hell...("smart" like sox fans...a bunch of dumb assholes pretending to care about a sport when really its just a cover for their alcoholism)
-- im kidding - not all sox fans are like that....but anyone who knows a couple of true south side guys knows what im talking about....theyre dumb...c'mon... really dumb... i dont know shit about baseball, and even I can understand that.
baseball is SOMETIMES exciting...and thats being kind. the sport HARDLY requires athleticism (although I HAVE seen some crazy catches -- i said "hardly")
The one thing I will give it is that it is a strategic game and its fun to GO to games. I personally, couldnt tell myself i like baseball based on those reasons alone. sorry if i hold others to those same standards. Yet, to my original point, you cant deny that the dumbest of the dumb are attracted to the sport...likely because they couldnt possibly understand anything less simple...
You like baseball because: 1.) your dumb... 2.) you play fantasy... 3.) you were raised traditionally - playing baseball as you grew up...or 4.) you like watching old fags stand around waiting for balls to drop in their vicinity (i call them predators)... WAYYYYYYYYYYOOOOO....hahaha....im a dick. but its true.
baseball fans everywhere!! ask yourself honestly....Why do you REALLY like baseball? I think you will find that I'm right. Or that I am an idiot when it comes to baseball, and thus my opinion on the matter is without merit.... you will come to one of those two conclusions...
hopefully, if you find i am in fact right, you fall into the one of the two baseball fan acceptable categories (you play fantasy, or were raised to like it). If you find that i am without merit...whether you admit it or not, you probably fall into one of my other two categories (your incredibly dumb, or your a flaming homo)...either way...im right...so fuck you.
mayhap more responses?...
again, moving forward...im in a bad mood...pay no attention to my baseball bashing.
When I hear things like "Oh yay! I'm such a bear fan! We got a new QB! Who's Cutler??"
god damnit....that pisses me off...
what the hell are you so happy about? admit that you dont watch football asshole...and then cry.
dont be a happy fan when everyone else is happy...and more importantly, dont be an angry fan when everyone else is angry. It makes me sick...
I'm sorry....im on a tirade here...but there have been a compilation of things that i've read and experienced today...that have just gotten my goat....
now you get to read my rant...as usual...
fuck all of you... fuck you, fuck you, youre cool, fuck you....youre cool.
seriously tho...
fuck you.
go ahead...i dare you.........send a dissenting e-mail...send me a "hi DLP"....tell me how awesome baseball is....poop my inbox...
I will fuck your child at a carnival....
DLP
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i dont dislike baseball....
i just beleive it blasphemous to call myself a baseball fan...even though I DO find enjoyment in certain aspects of the game
true baseball fans should laugh were i to say Im a sox fan, or a cub fan...
its a fine sport...and to each his own...if you like it....good...but your dumb...
im kidding...
seriously...good, everyone likes different things...its not a bad sport...
i guess my point was that others should follow my example except with football....stop pretending like you know something...it doesnt make you a fan...it makes you an asshole. its ok if you like going to football games....you dont have to know everything....but PLEASE FOR GOD SAKES, dont pretend like you do...
I swear...with some football fans I could say "Cutler just died in a terrible car crash and lost his arms" in a happy excited voice, and they would be like "OH YAYA biotch! We Win!! who made the most baskets?"
why.... just why? tell me...
and sports writers.....fuck....i already started...and will spare you more...
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yeah...im not saying that there shouldnt be semi-fans....people that like a team for whatever the reason...kind of enjoying a game here and there...and/or being glad to hear that a certain team won...and so on and so forth...
I think I fall into that category for almost everything except bears...
on my tirade...i was all over the place and i think i could have been misinterpreted...let me explain...with a little story...that i can now tell...because my anger has subsided...and i wont automatically start anger-pissing on things everytime i think about it.
what i have a problem with actually has nothing to do with being a fan or not...i think its more a certain type of personality that bothers me....and specifically...the way that personality interacts with the world of sports...
...at least in this circumstance...my hatred was made quite clear...i dont like when people are confidently dumb...
basically I was at a restaurant/bar on the south side...sitting there minding my own B...reading a sports magazine of some sort with a Jay Cutler pic apparently noticable on one of the pages...
a dude walks by and comments on the cutler situation...kind of a negative comment...something about how he is high maintenance...
so i look up from the paper and ask the man, "are you a bears fan?"
he says "yeah...definitely" pointing to his bears shirt...
i say, "really? what makes you say that about cutler? because of the way he demanded a trade?..."
he says "oh, i read about it...read an article."
i say "so, you think the cutler trade was a bad one because an article told you he was high maintenance...? "
he says, "well i just dont think he will be able to handle our fans"
i say, "you mean "fans"... like you?"
he says, "yeah, weve been waiting for a qb...he better not be a pansy..."
i let my eyes close and stay shut for a moment... and sigh...
I say..."let me tell you about what kind of pansy we just traded for..." and i start to list off his stats last year...kind of prickishly at this point...
he says "yeah...but they never won with him..." matching my pricky tone...like arguing with a child
at this point im at a loss for words...and im just looking up...staring at the guy...
im thinking to myself...this guy HAS to be TRYING to piss me off...
I patiently explain, "true, but that was because of the defense...Cutlers actually one of the few good things that Denver had...hes going to be great for us...most people are really excited about this...most bear fans..."
He interupts, "yeah, because they dont realize that hes a pussy...it will be interesting to see the fallout...another qb disaster... im just glad for baseball..."
i look down and smile "yeah...youre more of a baseball fan arent you? (rhetorically)........ let me guess......Sox?"
he says "hell yea man...i cant wait"
i say..." yeaaah...exciting...see im not much of a baseball fan...i dont think i could name the damn catcher if my life depended on it....who is it again??"
a smile comes to my face as i validate that i am speaking with a complete moron......i see that he doesnt know who the catcher is...
he says, "oh man...im blanking....i couldnt even tell you..."
i say playfully, "fuck!...make up a name...i wouldnt know the difference. ahh well...guess i should read some of those articles you were talking about...hahah"
he seems insulted now... "haha....weellll...i dont need articles, im goin to opening (opening day)"
the attempted bragging has me annoyed now, "yea...a couple guys from my work are taking the whole day off."
he says "fuck yea man...time to get drunk."
i say " who are they playin...you know?"
he answers, "nope...just goin to get wasted..."
i sigh..."ahhh..sox fans..."
and then with relief and a near anurism...go back to my business...
he sits down at the bar and i overhear him continuing to talk nonsense with a friend...including making comments about the non sox fan over there...referring to me....and it got worse and worse...and they believed so intensly in what they were saying...yet it was pure shit...making no sense at all...even when it was about baseball...
....and it worsened......until i had to step in once more and correct them on the topic of Cutlers receiver options....which due to my frustration did not come off pleasant...and it was obvious that I could no longer share the same space with these two gelatanous retards...
so i left...before i was forced to put a beer mug upside down over his nutsack and stomp...nay....BALANCE upon it....until i had the circular cookie cutter shape i was looking for....then proceed to peel it off the floor...and slap him across the face with it....his own hairy sack pattie....stinging his face red...with only the sound a nut sack slap could make...
alas...i left instead...
soooo...after that, i couldnt let it go. i went shopping around for articles that could have been the cause for this guy being so stupid. I was hoping I would find that it was simply poor genetics (and i think it was). but unfortunately, I ALSO found too many of exactly what I feared...terrible opinion based articles presented as factual analysis.... subsequently i became pissy....resulting in my various e-mails...
so i apologize...
my problem is with inbred people...and career sports writers that should be selling hotdogs at sports events...not writing about them...
i will take a hint from kuch and never speak of this again...
DLP
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dont worry...as you have seen over the past several years...my rage filled e-mails will come and go...
just when everyone feels relief that there is finally a welcomed e-silence....a few days of peace....a few weeks perhaps?.....suddenly.....I come back.... and fuck your inboxes with e-mails of hate and anger.... the length of which only my cock can top...
in any event Kuch...your supposed "limited grasp on reality" while writing this e-mail is the type of grasp i attempt to acheive daily...i read this and decided that I am dumb...which is ironic...because I have just spent several e-mails complaining about dumb people. The paragraph is like an intellectual word puzzle....I KNOW it makes sense...but its complexity is still far beyond my understanding.....Like old people having anal sex....
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anywho...
the liklihood of my anger spewing forth in e-mail form is unlikely to repeat itself until more football news....and even then, I dont forsee much that i could possibly be upset about this year...i think it will be quiet.....perhaps joyfilled e-mails will become the reg...but i doubt it....i dont do well filling imaginations with thoughts of butterflies and rainbows....doesnt have the impact...
(Kuch - dont think I dont notice your subtle satire...but it truly is ridiculously subtle...reading your e-mails is like being assigned to find the symbolism "everyone poops")
and must you sign off on your emails as DWK? eerily similar to my trendy initialed sign off....
'DLP'
wouldnt you say?
DLP
yeah...apparently this fact is also the media's hot topic....they will not shut up about it....(and Dave, this has nothing to do with you...I've just heard this fact non stop since Thursday, like its the only important thing about the Cutler trade...otherwise it IS interesting info... and appreciated in this forum)
news radio this morning: "it used to be called santa claus land....now its holiday land....isnt that interesting?"
no its not...tell me about how cutler's arm will rape the NFC....
or about the fact that the bears franchise will never be the same...
Santa Claus IN...interesting...but as a football fan...who cares.....
the bears finally have a qb....THIS is newsworthy all on its own...
and as for the articles i have seen that minimize this pickup, saying that Chicago doesnt realize what we are in for, since cutler is a baby and will hardly be able to handle the fickle bear fan way...
I'm sorry, but it is foolish to write such things....
You dont play in Elway's shadow for however many years with yet unacheived sky high expectations, and NOT have balls. He had (still does) Denver fans like putty in his hands....they loved him....EVEN THO there were unfulfilled expectations.
The nonsense about him being dramatic and overly sensitive comes from people that need to have a counterpoint. Sorry...theres no counterpoint...this was a GREAT trade...straight up. The dudes got brass....and the only thing I see preventing him from becoming successful in our scheme, is injury....not high maintenance like some would have you believe...
He's got high expectations here in Chicago, true....like he DIDNT in Denver? Give me a break...
He didnt have the surrounding cast in Denver...anyone that says that it was CUTLER to blame for the Bronco playoffless past couple of years is an idiot.
I think in chicago, he will have a much better surrounding cast (one would think...but this IS the Bears afterall)....and like Jon said....we will very likely (and HOPEFULLY) coast into the playoffs this year...
I am extremely excited about this...and I dont care who knows it...I'll hype him until I see him play shitty. Ive watched him play since he started over Plummer....hes money....and hes EXACTLY what we need. My dreams couldnt have been reflected into reality more perfectly....
Thanks to the Bears organization for finally growing a pair, and making moves....the RIGHT moves....im encouraged. I did like Orton though...and will root for him in Denver. He will likely be better off without the Chicago curse.
Naysayers beware...I will hunt you down and kill you with a fine tooth comb in your penis hole.
I'm drinking the Cutler kool-aid...so "sports analysts," who so willingly pretend like they know what they are talking about...like they know someone personally...and believe them to be too sensitive...shut the fuck up....your idiots...and you obviously havent been watching him play for the past couple of years....
call him anything else....impulsive....tempermental....aggressive...a risktaker...unafraid of consequences...
but, overly sensitive....im not buying....
all the other possible descriptions, are exactly what we need in chicago...
I'll kill you...
DLP
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Bouch says, "bring back rex!"
yes...that too...
with the new size of our O-line...if I had concerns that he couldnt see where the hell he was throwing before...(and i did)....i think now we'd find him having even MORE difficulty...
but would i mind having rex as a backup to cutler? nah...not really.
a.) hopefully he wouldnt be needed, cause if he is...we are all but fucked kindly...
b.) he was always used innappropriately. Hes very accurate...and probably a good qb...IF you use him like you should....given some of his shortcomings.... he cant be used the same way a Cutler (and most normal sized qbs) would be best used....that was always the problem... coaches were trying to make him into a different type of qb that didnt fit his skill set/physical characteristics... instead of using the skills that he DOES have in a way that they most effectively benefit the team...
So sure....bring Rex back........
...just change your in-game strategy if hes forced to go in.... hes NOT cutler....and hes not orton either. he MAY be the shortest QB in the NFL right now tho...does that escape coaches? somehow...it seemed to. (by the way...IS rex the shortest QB currently? is Flutie still on a bench somewhere? )
i digress, anywho.......hes sexy rexy...you have to account for that in your strategy...
fine tooth comb bouch.....fine tooth comb....
...think about that before you "poop" up my inbox...
(he sent me an e-mail that simply said "poop" ......nothing else....unaggravated...)
watch your peehole biotch...
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Wow, am i crazy pissed and formidable right now....maybe its just cause its a monday or whatever...but im about to shit on someones windsheild.
Before I became enraged...I was peacefully corresponding with a friend of mine and was going to supply my friendly Bear fans with an outside perspective...peacefully...so here is my attempt to not rustle any feathers...I cant promise how long it will be before I start taking my frustration out on the poor people receiving my e-mails today...i must make clear, that i may make some rude comments out of anger...but my anger is not with any of you...you are all helpless victims...i will try to control myself...
This is an e-mail from one of my work contacts that lives in Denver....
for a bit of background...I obviously gave him some grief about stealing his star qb on Thursday...specifically I was questioning if he (Cutler)was in fact a baby, despite my feelings otherwise...
heres my buddy's response:
"Well, here’s what I think about the self imposed highway robbery that was “The Cutler Trade.”
1) Offensive stars tend to shut the f up when they are in a town where everyone comes to the games to watch their defense. Chi-town kind of reminds me of Baton Rouge with LSU…Linebackers are the star players, not pansy ass snap-counters.
2.) Winning gives everyone a good attitude. Cutler was something like 17-20 as a starter…and he was friggin 13-1 when defense allowed 21 points or fewer. He’s gonna be a happy little diabetic knowing that his touchdowns aren’t a waste of time.
3) Cutler has honking balls man. Most QB’s come to Denver and shy away from the Elway comparisons. He was a nice guy about it for a while, and then finally said, “Fuck it, I have a better arm than Elway. I railed on his wife.”
4) He was 13-1 in games where the defense showed up…and he did that without a running back. You guys have the RB, a good tight end, a defense, and a special teams player that’s going to the hall of fame. It should be a very good year my man.
5) Now the Saints have to play against Cutler. This one pisses me off, because that secondary can’t handle a gun like Cutler picking them apart (as was proven last year when the score was something like 305-307 here in Denver).
6) Denver will have a 5-11 season, fans will revolt, and the football gods will smite them for three years to come for running every decent element of last years team out of town.
Enjoy your stupid Lombardy trophy. Fuck face."
The Saints comment (#5) is because hes originally out of New Orleans, so his fanhood goes Saints THEN Denver....also a HUGE LSU fan...
I know...so much to make fun of....it hurts me sometimes...
Although we BOTH like the Saints, and I think he is being humble when he suggests that the Saints may struggle this year. We have both agreed that we think this is their year. And I have told him not to worry about his Broncos either. I think Orton does well there. I know I will be rooting for him...I've always kind of liked Denver.
now i dont claim to be a football expert, by any means...but i DO CARE about football...i try to learn about it when i can, and understand things at a more complex level than "Oh, what fun it is to watch all these monkeys run around chasing a ball"
and i know that there are other people out there like me...we arent coaches...we arent talent scouts....we are just REAL football fans...and we happen not to be dumb as well....always good. its arguable whether or not im dumb...but you get the point.
So...as you can see...an unbiased football-EDUCATED person (as opposed to a "sports analyst" looking for material to fill a page), KNOWS that Chicago made a great trade...and that it is unlikely that Cutlers supposed sensitivity will be an issue.
Now I personally wasnt worried about this anyway...but it just really REALLY gets under my skin when Chicago based sports critics actually publish shit like the shit ive seen.
Wheres the accountability? wheres the integrity? This is why Bears fans (in general)....the ones that call for Hanie and boo Orton out of the half, when Orton has a few incompletes....THIS is why those Bear fans exist.....our writers are feeding them their stupidity....they are breeding Chicago sports retardism...
cause heres what happens...
fans think that they know what they are talking about, BECAUSE they take the time to read this blasphemy....then they go around town thinking that because they read this collection of articles from the "experts", they too are now an expert (yes, im guilty of this)....and can go around making idiotic statements...spreading the stupidity....then HIS friend thinks because his buddy reads all the articles...he MUST know what hes talking about....so then he repeats what HE says like hes some sort of football genius...and so on and so forth...
let me tell you something...NO ONE is impressed that you can boo when everyone else does...
And anyone with a brain can read some of the shit that chicago writers come out with and realize that it is filler...drama...sports soap opera...crap...meaningless ungrounded opinions of some shmuck that has no business writing about knitting....let alone sports....or more specifically football.
(cause some sports can be commented on by retards - ie. baseball)...haha - eat that shit baseball fans -- half of you really only like it for fantasy anyway...suck my balls...baseball is NOT that awesome...deal with it...
that will get some responses...
moving on...my point is...
Chicago (Bear) fans are not fickle....chicago just has a bunch of people that arent really fans period...and they are outspoken...cause theyre all "smart" as hell...("smart" like sox fans...a bunch of dumb assholes pretending to care about a sport when really its just a cover for their alcoholism)
-- im kidding - not all sox fans are like that....but anyone who knows a couple of true south side guys knows what im talking about....theyre dumb...c'mon... really dumb... i dont know shit about baseball, and even I can understand that.
baseball is SOMETIMES exciting...and thats being kind. the sport HARDLY requires athleticism (although I HAVE seen some crazy catches -- i said "hardly")
The one thing I will give it is that it is a strategic game and its fun to GO to games. I personally, couldnt tell myself i like baseball based on those reasons alone. sorry if i hold others to those same standards. Yet, to my original point, you cant deny that the dumbest of the dumb are attracted to the sport...likely because they couldnt possibly understand anything less simple...
You like baseball because: 1.) your dumb... 2.) you play fantasy... 3.) you were raised traditionally - playing baseball as you grew up...or 4.) you like watching old fags stand around waiting for balls to drop in their vicinity (i call them predators)... WAYYYYYYYYYYOOOOO....hahaha....im a dick. but its true.
baseball fans everywhere!! ask yourself honestly....Why do you REALLY like baseball? I think you will find that I'm right. Or that I am an idiot when it comes to baseball, and thus my opinion on the matter is without merit.... you will come to one of those two conclusions...
hopefully, if you find i am in fact right, you fall into the one of the two baseball fan acceptable categories (you play fantasy, or were raised to like it). If you find that i am without merit...whether you admit it or not, you probably fall into one of my other two categories (your incredibly dumb, or your a flaming homo)...either way...im right...so fuck you.
mayhap more responses?...
again, moving forward...im in a bad mood...pay no attention to my baseball bashing.
When I hear things like "Oh yay! I'm such a bear fan! We got a new QB! Who's Cutler??"
god damnit....that pisses me off...
what the hell are you so happy about? admit that you dont watch football asshole...and then cry.
dont be a happy fan when everyone else is happy...and more importantly, dont be an angry fan when everyone else is angry. It makes me sick...
I'm sorry....im on a tirade here...but there have been a compilation of things that i've read and experienced today...that have just gotten my goat....
now you get to read my rant...as usual...
fuck all of you... fuck you, fuck you, youre cool, fuck you....youre cool.
seriously tho...
fuck you.
go ahead...i dare you.........send a dissenting e-mail...send me a "hi DLP"....tell me how awesome baseball is....poop my inbox...
I will fuck your child at a carnival....
DLP
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i dont dislike baseball....
i just beleive it blasphemous to call myself a baseball fan...even though I DO find enjoyment in certain aspects of the game
true baseball fans should laugh were i to say Im a sox fan, or a cub fan...
its a fine sport...and to each his own...if you like it....good...but your dumb...
im kidding...
seriously...good, everyone likes different things...its not a bad sport...
i guess my point was that others should follow my example except with football....stop pretending like you know something...it doesnt make you a fan...it makes you an asshole. its ok if you like going to football games....you dont have to know everything....but PLEASE FOR GOD SAKES, dont pretend like you do...
I swear...with some football fans I could say "Cutler just died in a terrible car crash and lost his arms" in a happy excited voice, and they would be like "OH YAYA biotch! We Win!! who made the most baskets?"
why.... just why? tell me...
and sports writers.....fuck....i already started...and will spare you more...
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noice Kuch
yeah...im not saying that there shouldnt be semi-fans....people that like a team for whatever the reason...kind of enjoying a game here and there...and/or being glad to hear that a certain team won...and so on and so forth...
I think I fall into that category for almost everything except bears...
on my tirade...i was all over the place and i think i could have been misinterpreted...let me explain...with a little story...that i can now tell...because my anger has subsided...and i wont automatically start anger-pissing on things everytime i think about it.
what i have a problem with actually has nothing to do with being a fan or not...i think its more a certain type of personality that bothers me....and specifically...the way that personality interacts with the world of sports...
...at least in this circumstance...my hatred was made quite clear...i dont like when people are confidently dumb...
basically I was at a restaurant/bar on the south side...sitting there minding my own B...reading a sports magazine of some sort with a Jay Cutler pic apparently noticable on one of the pages...
a dude walks by and comments on the cutler situation...kind of a negative comment...something about how he is high maintenance...
so i look up from the paper and ask the man, "are you a bears fan?"
he says "yeah...definitely" pointing to his bears shirt...
i say, "really? what makes you say that about cutler? because of the way he demanded a trade?..."
he says "oh, i read about it...read an article."
i say "so, you think the cutler trade was a bad one because an article told you he was high maintenance...? "
he says, "well i just dont think he will be able to handle our fans"
i say, "you mean "fans"... like you?"
he says, "yeah, weve been waiting for a qb...he better not be a pansy..."
i let my eyes close and stay shut for a moment... and sigh...
I say..."let me tell you about what kind of pansy we just traded for..." and i start to list off his stats last year...kind of prickishly at this point...
he says "yeah...but they never won with him..." matching my pricky tone...like arguing with a child
at this point im at a loss for words...and im just looking up...staring at the guy...
im thinking to myself...this guy HAS to be TRYING to piss me off...
I patiently explain, "true, but that was because of the defense...Cutlers actually one of the few good things that Denver had...hes going to be great for us...most people are really excited about this...most bear fans..."
He interupts, "yeah, because they dont realize that hes a pussy...it will be interesting to see the fallout...another qb disaster... im just glad for baseball..."
i look down and smile "yeah...youre more of a baseball fan arent you? (rhetorically)........ let me guess......Sox?"
he says "hell yea man...i cant wait"
i say..." yeaaah...exciting...see im not much of a baseball fan...i dont think i could name the damn catcher if my life depended on it....who is it again??"
a smile comes to my face as i validate that i am speaking with a complete moron......i see that he doesnt know who the catcher is...
he says, "oh man...im blanking....i couldnt even tell you..."
i say playfully, "fuck!...make up a name...i wouldnt know the difference. ahh well...guess i should read some of those articles you were talking about...hahah"
he seems insulted now... "haha....weellll...i dont need articles, im goin to opening (opening day)"
the attempted bragging has me annoyed now, "yea...a couple guys from my work are taking the whole day off."
he says "fuck yea man...time to get drunk."
i say " who are they playin...you know?"
he answers, "nope...just goin to get wasted..."
i sigh..."ahhh..sox fans..."
and then with relief and a near anurism...go back to my business...
he sits down at the bar and i overhear him continuing to talk nonsense with a friend...including making comments about the non sox fan over there...referring to me....and it got worse and worse...and they believed so intensly in what they were saying...yet it was pure shit...making no sense at all...even when it was about baseball...
....and it worsened......until i had to step in once more and correct them on the topic of Cutlers receiver options....which due to my frustration did not come off pleasant...and it was obvious that I could no longer share the same space with these two gelatanous retards...
so i left...before i was forced to put a beer mug upside down over his nutsack and stomp...nay....BALANCE upon it....until i had the circular cookie cutter shape i was looking for....then proceed to peel it off the floor...and slap him across the face with it....his own hairy sack pattie....stinging his face red...with only the sound a nut sack slap could make...
alas...i left instead...
soooo...after that, i couldnt let it go. i went shopping around for articles that could have been the cause for this guy being so stupid. I was hoping I would find that it was simply poor genetics (and i think it was). but unfortunately, I ALSO found too many of exactly what I feared...terrible opinion based articles presented as factual analysis.... subsequently i became pissy....resulting in my various e-mails...
so i apologize...
my problem is with inbred people...and career sports writers that should be selling hotdogs at sports events...not writing about them...
i will take a hint from kuch and never speak of this again...
DLP
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dont worry...as you have seen over the past several years...my rage filled e-mails will come and go...
just when everyone feels relief that there is finally a welcomed e-silence....a few days of peace....a few weeks perhaps?.....suddenly.....I come back.... and fuck your inboxes with e-mails of hate and anger.... the length of which only my cock can top...
in any event Kuch...your supposed "limited grasp on reality" while writing this e-mail is the type of grasp i attempt to acheive daily...i read this and decided that I am dumb...which is ironic...because I have just spent several e-mails complaining about dumb people. The paragraph is like an intellectual word puzzle....I KNOW it makes sense...but its complexity is still far beyond my understanding.....Like old people having anal sex....
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anywho...
the liklihood of my anger spewing forth in e-mail form is unlikely to repeat itself until more football news....and even then, I dont forsee much that i could possibly be upset about this year...i think it will be quiet.....perhaps joyfilled e-mails will become the reg...but i doubt it....i dont do well filling imaginations with thoughts of butterflies and rainbows....doesnt have the impact...
(Kuch - dont think I dont notice your subtle satire...but it truly is ridiculously subtle...reading your e-mails is like being assigned to find the symbolism "everyone poops")
and must you sign off on your emails as DWK? eerily similar to my trendy initialed sign off....
'DLP'
wouldnt you say?
DLP
2008 Regular Season Week 6 - Bears @ Falcons
Matt Ryan = Bear Hunter...
I hate Matt Ryan...
Actually, I kind of like the guy...and at one point very early in the season LAST year...I thought there was a decent possibility we could get in position to draft him...and that would have proved interesting...
But alas...Atlanta ends up with him...and he becomes the one reason why we cant escape Atlanta with a win.
Before I get too negative...
This game was awesome! what a crazy ass game. The fact that it was a good game made the loss a tad easier to swallow...but I'll tell you...i was not celebrating with 11 seconds on the clock...
I had a terrible feeling... and I was on the verge of puking as the Atlanta offense came back on the field. I was excited that Orton scored via Davis (great throw - awesome catch)...but not once, did I think we had it in the bag....
now, did I expect THAT to happen...no....it was my worst nightmare come true...a nightmare that I sensed from a mile away.
Only the bears can score with 11 seconds left and still be in danger of losing the game....damn elam...you couldnt miss number 2? bastard...
Can someone please explain to me why their was a man WIDE open at exactly the position on the field that a logical coach would make sure that NO ONE could have a chance at a ball...??
I mean right on the sideline so that they could get out of bounds.... just the right distance for a field goal attempt.....!!
WHY THE FUCK WAS OUR ENTIRE TEAM NOT RIGHT ON THE SIDELINES THERE - ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FIELD!!!??? DAMNIT!!!! Atlanta could have done ANYTHING else and we would have won...
Why we allow that field space to be open at all is completely beyond me...like frickin retards are making decisions around here... there should have been at least 2 guys right at that very spot on both sides of the field. what the hell...
I'll give it to Ryan for making a good throw....but if you really look at that play...it was an easy pass...the guy was wide open with plenty of room to spare....
With 11 seconds left...how you let there be a gimme 40 yard pass ANYWHERE is ridiculous...and having the space open right at the sideline is horrific.
Ryan had his way with the Defense all game...and my gut was telling me that with 11 seconds and the game on the line, that nothing would change....
but logic.....logic was telling me that there is no possible way....if we just THINK....just for a moment about what they need in order to win...JUST THINK for gods sake about where that ball needs to go for them to get into field goal position....logic would tell me that we are safe...we will just knock that ball right out of the air cause we will be ready for it and in position...we will have guys just standing there...
Well logic?...you suck... because we do....at thinking.....logically....
If someone can provide me with some football explanation as to how that could have happened...I would really appreciate it... I simply dont understand it.
And this isnt a hindsight is always 20/20 thing... it was clear as day to me where they had to go with the football...why was no one there? not one person was there in a position to make a play... what the hell were they all doing?
...and if someone tells me that pressure on the qb is the reason why a guy was open down there...then thats even more retarded. Pressuring the QB will make Ryan make a bad throw quickly...AT BEST...giving him another down to try the same thing after 3 seconds tick off for a play resulting in an incompletion.
the gameplan...my friends...SHOULD HAVE BEEN...hardcore coverage with minimal rush.
Let Ryan look all day if he wants to....he would be wasting the clock...his own time sitting back there in the pocket looking for the group of players that had less white jerseys...
Bring guys that would normally stay up in Ryan's face back into coverage. Simple football IQ... HOW WE DID NOT DO THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I WILL ASK UNTIL THE END OF MY DAYS...
Im just at a loss...
But I'm still not discouraged...if we were going to lose...i'd rather it be like that...
but we needed that game...dont think we didnt. that was important...and I am definitely upset about it.
But the good thing is Orton...what a show of leadership and skill...
and Forte...back in business now that we have a dual edged offense (be them sharp edges or not)
Davis saved us a COUPLE of times in that game and he looked solid.
Hester still progressing and looking better than ever...
So I saw some good things...
But overall...that one poor decision when it really counted regarding the defensive play choice...i dont think I can let that go...that was REALLY stupid....and I hope someone got fired.
Am I being too hard on the defensive decision makers?
DLP
I hate Matt Ryan...
Actually, I kind of like the guy...and at one point very early in the season LAST year...I thought there was a decent possibility we could get in position to draft him...and that would have proved interesting...
But alas...Atlanta ends up with him...and he becomes the one reason why we cant escape Atlanta with a win.
Before I get too negative...
This game was awesome! what a crazy ass game. The fact that it was a good game made the loss a tad easier to swallow...but I'll tell you...i was not celebrating with 11 seconds on the clock...
I had a terrible feeling... and I was on the verge of puking as the Atlanta offense came back on the field. I was excited that Orton scored via Davis (great throw - awesome catch)...but not once, did I think we had it in the bag....
now, did I expect THAT to happen...no....it was my worst nightmare come true...a nightmare that I sensed from a mile away.
Only the bears can score with 11 seconds left and still be in danger of losing the game....damn elam...you couldnt miss number 2? bastard...
Can someone please explain to me why their was a man WIDE open at exactly the position on the field that a logical coach would make sure that NO ONE could have a chance at a ball...??
I mean right on the sideline so that they could get out of bounds.... just the right distance for a field goal attempt.....!!
WHY THE FUCK WAS OUR ENTIRE TEAM NOT RIGHT ON THE SIDELINES THERE - ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FIELD!!!??? DAMNIT!!!! Atlanta could have done ANYTHING else and we would have won...
Why we allow that field space to be open at all is completely beyond me...like frickin retards are making decisions around here... there should have been at least 2 guys right at that very spot on both sides of the field. what the hell...
I'll give it to Ryan for making a good throw....but if you really look at that play...it was an easy pass...the guy was wide open with plenty of room to spare....
With 11 seconds left...how you let there be a gimme 40 yard pass ANYWHERE is ridiculous...and having the space open right at the sideline is horrific.
Ryan had his way with the Defense all game...and my gut was telling me that with 11 seconds and the game on the line, that nothing would change....
but logic.....logic was telling me that there is no possible way....if we just THINK....just for a moment about what they need in order to win...JUST THINK for gods sake about where that ball needs to go for them to get into field goal position....logic would tell me that we are safe...we will just knock that ball right out of the air cause we will be ready for it and in position...we will have guys just standing there...
Well logic?...you suck... because we do....at thinking.....logically....
If someone can provide me with some football explanation as to how that could have happened...I would really appreciate it... I simply dont understand it.
And this isnt a hindsight is always 20/20 thing... it was clear as day to me where they had to go with the football...why was no one there? not one person was there in a position to make a play... what the hell were they all doing?
...and if someone tells me that pressure on the qb is the reason why a guy was open down there...then thats even more retarded. Pressuring the QB will make Ryan make a bad throw quickly...AT BEST...giving him another down to try the same thing after 3 seconds tick off for a play resulting in an incompletion.
the gameplan...my friends...SHOULD HAVE BEEN...hardcore coverage with minimal rush.
Let Ryan look all day if he wants to....he would be wasting the clock...his own time sitting back there in the pocket looking for the group of players that had less white jerseys...
Bring guys that would normally stay up in Ryan's face back into coverage. Simple football IQ... HOW WE DID NOT DO THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I WILL ASK UNTIL THE END OF MY DAYS...
Im just at a loss...
But I'm still not discouraged...if we were going to lose...i'd rather it be like that...
but we needed that game...dont think we didnt. that was important...and I am definitely upset about it.
But the good thing is Orton...what a show of leadership and skill...
and Forte...back in business now that we have a dual edged offense (be them sharp edges or not)
Davis saved us a COUPLE of times in that game and he looked solid.
Hester still progressing and looking better than ever...
So I saw some good things...
But overall...that one poor decision when it really counted regarding the defensive play choice...i dont think I can let that go...that was REALLY stupid....and I hope someone got fired.
Am I being too hard on the defensive decision makers?
DLP
2008 Regular Season Week 5 - Bears @ Lions
Bears win...
they did good...
dream game...
Detroit lions tho...
Orton progressing well, even so...
Defense still looking hot...
Hester looking better at receiver...
Forte still impressing me quite a bit - far higher than my expectations...
Olsen back on track...lets hope he continues not to fumble...
So the reason for this bulleted e-mail is because I heard some complaints that I am falling behind with my weekly Bears e-mails...obviously this is true. I apologize for my lack of attention of late...I have been busy. But as you all know - busyness occurrs in phases - never fear - I will be back in full capacity at some point - where you will have a 4 page e-mail from me every week....right now tho it is just not possible. You will have to be satisfied with the briefer version (the preference for most of you im sure).
Lets be honest - when there is nothing to complain about...my e-mails are hardly any fun. Half of the good stuff comes from me going on a ridiculously unnecessary rant for 7 pages.
All that I saw was good on Sunday...and subsequently I have no entertainment for you.
DLP
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This is mostly a response to MElons, but Jon, I agree with you as well.
MElons writes...
"123, 92, 89, 43, 36 and
5.3, 4.0, 3.3, 2.3, 2.4
those are matt fortes total yards and yards per carry each game this year. For team that still wants to play 4 yards and a cloud of dust football, that doesn't bode well.
Im not sure what game you were watching but 36 yards on 15 carries against the lions for forte is pretty scary to me."
Yeah...I'll be honest - when I wrote that I wasnt REALLY thinking about the game...I think I was just thinking that we did well and that Forte must have been a part of that - but your right - he really wasnt (at least not according to the stats - I will explain below...there are some intangibles that I am not sure you are considering).
That doesnt change the fact that he has been impressive - and I do still think that - even in light of your handy number representation.
In fact, I'm glad that his carries have become fewer and that his numbers became lower. You know what that means? Other teams are planning for him.
At the beginning of the season, no one knew shit about him and he raped defenses. As he became a beeping coffee spill on the radar, defenses had to consider him as THE bear offense - and thats what he was/is. Once they started focusing their energies on that - looky looky - Orton has a fantastic game.
Forte is doing exactly what he is supposed to - legitimizing the run game of the bears. His talent level is the same - its just people know about him now. But that makes them vulnerable to OTHER things...like Orton.
So your numbers may mean one thing to you - but they mean something totally different to me.
They mean that our strategy is working. They mean that defenses think that they can stop us by stopping our run game. While they are focused on trying to do so, receivers are being opened up and we are getting bigger pass plays. A couple of stuffed runs every now and again, that get us back to the line of scrimmage, is worth the vertical game that we potentially gain.
Granted - Orton has to be on and the receivers have to catch the ball...but I feel like if not for Forte - you wouldnt see as much progression in some of the other players that will be key to our success throughout the season.
Forte cant do it all, but using him as a slight of hand tactic (look over here while I secretly send hester on a slant)...gets the ball into some of our other playmakers hands (and yes, we have others).
I was talking with Bahkus about this weeks ago actually. Forte cant do it all...we needed some other people to put forth some effort. By the opposing teams focusing on Forte - they are actually forcing that to happen....AND Forte's early success is the main reason why their (the other players on the team) efforts are increasingly resulting in success.
So while you may see a dismal future based on those numbers - I see confused opponents. I see people not really understanding where they should focus their energies or how to approach our offense.
The logical answer is to kill the run game --- and that should work against the bears in most cases...but in this case it didnt...and if I have been right all along about Orton's progression, it will continue to not work very well.
The fact is that Orton is better and has been getting better each game of the season.
Forte was good and still is good but no longer has the element of surprise.
With those two leaders on both aspects of the offense...the hope would be that if the run game has a bad showing - the pass game steps it up...when the pass game fails...the run game succeeds.
Against our defense - the opponent doesnt have much time to figure which to be most concerned with...the hope being that we are up by too large of a margin by the time they figure it out. They are not going to have much of a chance of coming back against a defense that scores as well as their offense does...and when our offense can give it to you by air or by foot and you have no initial clue which it could be today? money...
The big question is -- can we really give it to you by air OR by foot? I would suggest that we can -- but barely.... -- just as much as we have to. I'm not saying that either aspect of the offense will ever be breathtaking...but I think that they can do enough (because "enough" is truly just 3 points every once in a while).
Against our defense (the way it can be at its highest performance level), a couple of field goals per half will probably do it against most opponents...all other things considered (defensive scores, special teams).
We win field position games with a credible pass game. Forte makes the run game threatening enough to allow potential for a pass game. Success in a pass game does one of two good things - 1.) scores points 2.) puts our defense in a great position against their offense and forces them to go a long way against it to put anything up on the scoreboard
Our defense having an opposing offense on a longer stretch of field before their endzone gives our aggressive defense a lot of opportunities to mess something up and return the ball to OUR offense... AND giving them a short field to work with after a turnover. A couple of yards, just a sprinkle of success for our offense, and we have points.
And the defense gets back on to try it again, start the whole process over again... The key is that after a field position battle back and forth that WE end up with SOME points...
Its all connected - and Forte is the key that could potentially make it all snap together like its supposed to. His ability to legitimize the Bears as a running team (like they always should have been) will make or break the Bears this season.
The defense has always been top notch.
The pass game was shady but always has been and never wont be. We just need minimal talent there which will be magnified (for the better) by running success.
Now that we have seen a little running success...you are observing the magnification of the talent that has always been there but has been viewed as a weakness that opposition can take advantage of ...
When there is no other obvious threat, protecting from long yardage pass plays is easy. Not so easy when you need those coverage guys to stuff up the box in the event that Forte is planning on breaking one.
So whether Forte is literally successful or not, he makes or breaks every game.
Just as there is a Hester effect on punts and kickoffs...I believe that the game against the Lions reflected the Forte effect. Some of his value is intangible.
Those numbers dont bother me at all...
Jon,
I DO feel you on your O'line concerns - I think Forte would break huge ones if he could get some more openings -- I feel like he is being touched early way too often. Luckily hes a bruiser and usually finds the yards anyway - but he shouldnt be forced to fight like that until later in runs. He needs some space, which will give him more speed, which will give momentum, which will make end of runs much easier on him...not to mention harder on the defense.
Anyone else believe in the Forte effect? His numbers were bound to falter. His effect is even greater now as far as I'm concerned though...
He just cant get hurt...trust me - it would spell disaster....it would prove my point once and for all....but it would be a complete disaster.
Theres the 4 pager you were looking for Bouch?
DLP
they did good...
dream game...
Detroit lions tho...
Orton progressing well, even so...
Defense still looking hot...
Hester looking better at receiver...
Forte still impressing me quite a bit - far higher than my expectations...
Olsen back on track...lets hope he continues not to fumble...
So the reason for this bulleted e-mail is because I heard some complaints that I am falling behind with my weekly Bears e-mails...obviously this is true. I apologize for my lack of attention of late...I have been busy. But as you all know - busyness occurrs in phases - never fear - I will be back in full capacity at some point - where you will have a 4 page e-mail from me every week....right now tho it is just not possible. You will have to be satisfied with the briefer version (the preference for most of you im sure).
Lets be honest - when there is nothing to complain about...my e-mails are hardly any fun. Half of the good stuff comes from me going on a ridiculously unnecessary rant for 7 pages.
All that I saw was good on Sunday...and subsequently I have no entertainment for you.
DLP
-------------------
This is mostly a response to MElons, but Jon, I agree with you as well.
MElons writes...
"123, 92, 89, 43, 36 and
5.3, 4.0, 3.3, 2.3, 2.4
those are matt fortes total yards and yards per carry each game this year. For team that still wants to play 4 yards and a cloud of dust football, that doesn't bode well.
Im not sure what game you were watching but 36 yards on 15 carries against the lions for forte is pretty scary to me."
Yeah...I'll be honest - when I wrote that I wasnt REALLY thinking about the game...I think I was just thinking that we did well and that Forte must have been a part of that - but your right - he really wasnt (at least not according to the stats - I will explain below...there are some intangibles that I am not sure you are considering).
That doesnt change the fact that he has been impressive - and I do still think that - even in light of your handy number representation.
In fact, I'm glad that his carries have become fewer and that his numbers became lower. You know what that means? Other teams are planning for him.
At the beginning of the season, no one knew shit about him and he raped defenses. As he became a beeping coffee spill on the radar, defenses had to consider him as THE bear offense - and thats what he was/is. Once they started focusing their energies on that - looky looky - Orton has a fantastic game.
Forte is doing exactly what he is supposed to - legitimizing the run game of the bears. His talent level is the same - its just people know about him now. But that makes them vulnerable to OTHER things...like Orton.
So your numbers may mean one thing to you - but they mean something totally different to me.
They mean that our strategy is working. They mean that defenses think that they can stop us by stopping our run game. While they are focused on trying to do so, receivers are being opened up and we are getting bigger pass plays. A couple of stuffed runs every now and again, that get us back to the line of scrimmage, is worth the vertical game that we potentially gain.
Granted - Orton has to be on and the receivers have to catch the ball...but I feel like if not for Forte - you wouldnt see as much progression in some of the other players that will be key to our success throughout the season.
Forte cant do it all, but using him as a slight of hand tactic (look over here while I secretly send hester on a slant)...gets the ball into some of our other playmakers hands (and yes, we have others).
I was talking with Bahkus about this weeks ago actually. Forte cant do it all...we needed some other people to put forth some effort. By the opposing teams focusing on Forte - they are actually forcing that to happen....AND Forte's early success is the main reason why their (the other players on the team) efforts are increasingly resulting in success.
So while you may see a dismal future based on those numbers - I see confused opponents. I see people not really understanding where they should focus their energies or how to approach our offense.
The logical answer is to kill the run game --- and that should work against the bears in most cases...but in this case it didnt...and if I have been right all along about Orton's progression, it will continue to not work very well.
The fact is that Orton is better and has been getting better each game of the season.
Forte was good and still is good but no longer has the element of surprise.
With those two leaders on both aspects of the offense...the hope would be that if the run game has a bad showing - the pass game steps it up...when the pass game fails...the run game succeeds.
Against our defense - the opponent doesnt have much time to figure which to be most concerned with...the hope being that we are up by too large of a margin by the time they figure it out. They are not going to have much of a chance of coming back against a defense that scores as well as their offense does...and when our offense can give it to you by air or by foot and you have no initial clue which it could be today? money...
The big question is -- can we really give it to you by air OR by foot? I would suggest that we can -- but barely.... -- just as much as we have to. I'm not saying that either aspect of the offense will ever be breathtaking...but I think that they can do enough (because "enough" is truly just 3 points every once in a while).
Against our defense (the way it can be at its highest performance level), a couple of field goals per half will probably do it against most opponents...all other things considered (defensive scores, special teams).
We win field position games with a credible pass game. Forte makes the run game threatening enough to allow potential for a pass game. Success in a pass game does one of two good things - 1.) scores points 2.) puts our defense in a great position against their offense and forces them to go a long way against it to put anything up on the scoreboard
Our defense having an opposing offense on a longer stretch of field before their endzone gives our aggressive defense a lot of opportunities to mess something up and return the ball to OUR offense... AND giving them a short field to work with after a turnover. A couple of yards, just a sprinkle of success for our offense, and we have points.
And the defense gets back on to try it again, start the whole process over again... The key is that after a field position battle back and forth that WE end up with SOME points...
Its all connected - and Forte is the key that could potentially make it all snap together like its supposed to. His ability to legitimize the Bears as a running team (like they always should have been) will make or break the Bears this season.
The defense has always been top notch.
The pass game was shady but always has been and never wont be. We just need minimal talent there which will be magnified (for the better) by running success.
Now that we have seen a little running success...you are observing the magnification of the talent that has always been there but has been viewed as a weakness that opposition can take advantage of ...
When there is no other obvious threat, protecting from long yardage pass plays is easy. Not so easy when you need those coverage guys to stuff up the box in the event that Forte is planning on breaking one.
So whether Forte is literally successful or not, he makes or breaks every game.
Just as there is a Hester effect on punts and kickoffs...I believe that the game against the Lions reflected the Forte effect. Some of his value is intangible.
Those numbers dont bother me at all...
Jon,
I DO feel you on your O'line concerns - I think Forte would break huge ones if he could get some more openings -- I feel like he is being touched early way too often. Luckily hes a bruiser and usually finds the yards anyway - but he shouldnt be forced to fight like that until later in runs. He needs some space, which will give him more speed, which will give momentum, which will make end of runs much easier on him...not to mention harder on the defense.
Anyone else believe in the Forte effect? His numbers were bound to falter. His effect is even greater now as far as I'm concerned though...
He just cant get hurt...trust me - it would spell disaster....it would prove my point once and for all....but it would be a complete disaster.
Theres the 4 pager you were looking for Bouch?
DLP
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